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fudgitive
07-19-2011, 01:52 PM
I know it is an old topic, but I gave in and installed ASR defeat in my car, which I finished installing this evening.

The core of my instal was based on Rick's info, but I opted to use the child lock switch instead of going to the trouble of fitting a new one. The job was pretty straightforward, especially since it has no passenger airbag, so with the glove box lining removed running the cables is easy, and I positioned a 4 pole relay behind the glove box, even took power from the glove box light since it was all there in one place - it is acc power not ignition power at that point, but it does the job.

I had intended to use the 4th relay contact to switch an LED indicator light, but since the snow chain light illuminates anyway when the defeat is enabled, I didn't see the point in the end.

For reference, my car is a '92, and the wires were blue, brown/green and brown/yellow that I had to tap into. I cheated a little bit, instead of drilling a hole in the plastic base of the CAN box, I carefully incised the rubber air hose that cools the box, on the passenger side of the CAN at the bottom, then fed the loom (it's only six wires) into the box that way, a bit of silicone and a few zip ties and you would never know it was there. I don't think the wire loom will restrict airflow in any noticeable way, it's just not big enough to cause an issue.

It works, the wheels will spin and there seems to be slightly stronger pick up through the mid range when giving it a bit, not a lot but it is noticeable. Currently I am running 285 Michelins on the back, and with the hot tarmac and tyres here in Dubai the warning light in the speedo doesn't come on that often anyway, unless you are really giving it some. When I switch it on, the snow chain LED comes on and stays on until I switch it off again, at which point the orange warning light in the speedo briefly flashes once, then the ASR is enabled again. What doesn't happen, that other posts have indicated normally does, is the ASR light at the bottom of the gauges does not come on when I activate the defeat switch (and yes the light is working) ?? Strange but hey it all seems to function properly apart from that.

Yes I know it's a hooligan mod, but what's a v8 without a bit of tyre smoke now and then eh? 8-)

Oh total value of parts - $30

Glen
07-19-2011, 01:58 PM
Very nice. We need some pix of a smokey burnout! :-)

lil_dz33
07-19-2011, 11:47 PM
I need to do this! Congrats! Playing with the electric bits in my car is a frightening thought!

500ESpain
07-20-2011, 03:52 AM
I need to do this! Congrats! Playing with the electric bits in my car is a frightening thought!


Frightened too!! But need to do it!! I need a "how to for dummies"

lil_dz33
07-20-2011, 02:49 PM
Frightened too!! But need to do it!! I need a "how to for dummies"

Esteban,

You can take a look at 2phast's write up here http://www.2phast.com/500e/cooling.htm

Scroll down to ASR Defeat. His instructions are very concise.

borring
09-03-2012, 02:54 AM
Any pictures? :-)

Regarding ASR switch, do anyone know if the A1408214651 for W202 W140 will fit into the middle console?

500AMM
09-03-2012, 09:08 AM
Any pictures? :-)

Regarding ASR switch, do anyone know if the A1408214651 for W202 W140 will fit into the middle console?
Yes, the switch fits in the recess in the console, I have bought a new switch to use on the ASR defeat. I guess you know you also need a rear dome light switch A124 820 98 10, and combine them to get the wanted function as 2phast has described.

Cheers

gerryvz
09-03-2012, 09:29 AM
Here are a few photos of my car with the ASR OFF switch installed. This switch comes from the W140. "Before" and "after" photos.

I ordered the wood from MB with all buttons cut out so that I could add the ASR OFF switch, and sold my original 1994 wood (which had an additional cut-out from the 1992 and 1993 US models) to Jimbo.

Yes, you have to CAREFULLY switch the "ASR OFF" cover from the 140 switch and replace the cover on the dome light switch. It is VERY easy to crack the plastic hinge area of the ASR OFF plastic cover, so take time and care doing this.

Cheers,
Gerry

Christian_K
09-03-2012, 04:53 PM
I think i will do this also once the car is completed. We have tons of HSC and CNC machines at work, is it possible to cut the hole with such a cutter from a CNC or will it crack then?

2phast
09-03-2012, 09:16 PM
I think i will do this also once the car is completed. We have tons of HSC and CNC machines at work, is it possible to cut the hole with such a cutter from a CNC or will it crack then?

I don't think cracking is the real issue, its the chipping of the veneer finish that your going to have problems with. If your CNC has a laser, that might be the best route if your going to tackle the cutting on your own.

gerryvz
09-03-2012, 10:35 PM
This can be done, but I've never seen an amateur do a good job. Like 2Phast says... it's the veneer that is generally the problem for "do it yourself" cuts.

Best to either have a wood restoration specialist do the work, or just buy the piece from MB. It's not cheap though. :spend:

There are a number of MB wood specialists in Germany.

Cheers,
Gerry

J-Sauce
09-03-2012, 11:14 PM
I've got a handful of the w140 ASR OFF switches if anyone needs one. $10 shipped. :)

500AMM
09-04-2012, 03:35 AM
I think i will do this also once the car is completed. We have tons of HSC and CNC machines at work, is it possible to cut the hole with such a cutter from a CNC or will it crack then?

You lucky bastard.. :D ....I do also want such machines - at home - in my garage!! :-)

I'm sure this depends on the milling tool and cutting speed. Probably a small tool at high revs. A milling tool with twisted cutters may force the chips upwards and hence damage the veneer edges in the hole. It's the same when filing - you must file downwards along with the wood fibers direction. I guess you understand what I mean Christian. And when filing it's important to rub some chalk onto the file to avoid a packed file, just as on aluminium filing.

mikachantw
08-14-2013, 09:40 PM
I have a stupidly question. Can the ASR defeated solve the Limp mode?

Roma_500E
08-15-2013, 04:27 AM
I have a stupidly question. Can the ASR defeated solve the Limp mode?

Not at all.

gsxr
08-15-2013, 10:30 AM
I have a stupidly question. Can the ASR defeated solve the Limp mode?
No, you need to fix the problem. ASR is not the problem.

:mushroom: :mushroom: :mushroom:

szvook
08-15-2013, 11:22 AM
If I deside to get one, I have a good place for the ASR button - since I have an aftermarket ICE system, the factory fader wheel s not being used and would make for a good place to mount the switch and no need to make any additional wholes.

J-Sauce
08-26-2013, 02:11 PM
Vookster let me know if you need help with the install. Though I have a feeling RBTech will likely be doing the work for ya ;)

szvook
08-26-2013, 02:53 PM
Vookster let me know if you need help with the install. Though I have a feeling RBTech will likely be doing the work for ya ;)
Many thanks, Justin, but RB Tech will be doing the job.

jnes
08-26-2013, 11:52 PM
This can be done, but I've never seen an amateur do a good job. Like 2Phast says... it's the veneer that is generally the problem for "do it yourself" cuts.

Best to either have a wood restoration specialist do the work, or just buy the piece from MB. It's not cheap though. :spend:

There are a number of MB wood specialists in Germany.

Cheers,
Gerry

I did this cut on my panel without any problems couple years ago. My friends have looked the cutout hole many times and they see no diffrence between factory made hole and hole which I made on my own with CNC machine. I can make some sort of DIY report if you're intrested.. :star:

500AMM
08-29-2013, 05:02 AM
I did this cut on my panel without any problems couple years ago. My friends have looked the cutout hole many times and they see no diffrence between factory made hole and hole which I made on my own with CNC machine. I can make some sort of DIY report if you're intrested..

That sounds interesting! Post some pics on the Interior Topics forum.



This can be done, but I've never seen an amateur do a good job. Like 2Phast says... it's the veneer that is generally the problem for "do it yourself" cuts.

Best to either have a wood restoration specialist do the work, or just buy the piece from MB. It's not cheap though. :spend:

There are a number of MB wood specialists in Germany.

Cheers,
Gerry
Gerry,

I have been looking for wood specialists here in Europe over the years, but I won't say they are hanging on trees IMO. Any leads is highly appreciated. :-)

Thanks
-a-

Zuffenhausen
07-30-2015, 11:47 PM
Here are a few photos of my car with the ASR OFF switch installed. This switch comes from the W140. "Before" and "after" photos.

I ordered the wood from MB with all buttons cut out so that I could add the ASR OFF switch, and sold my original 1994 wood (which had an additional cut-out from the 1992 and 1993 US models) to Jimbo.

Yes, you have to CAREFULLY switch the "ASR OFF" cover from the 140 switch and replace the cover on the dome light switch. It is VERY easy to crack the plastic hinge area of the ASR OFF plastic cover, so take time and care doing this.

Cheers,
Gerry

Is this wood still available? If so would you have the part number?

gsxr
07-31-2015, 09:43 AM
Is this wood still available? If so would you have the part number?
The 9-hole HVAC wood is NLA.

:runexe: