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KarlC
11-05-2013, 06:08 PM
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I kinda like the French (Yellow) Head light fog light look, its very Euro to me.

Anyone done this mod ?

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2013/11/18.jpg

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2013/11/19.jpg

gsxr
11-05-2013, 06:13 PM
Are you talking about the bumper fogs, or the auxiliary high beams next to the main headlamp? I don't think you want yellow high beams, do you?

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KarlC
11-05-2013, 06:25 PM
Are you talking about the bumper fogs, or the auxiliary high beams next to the main headlamp? I don't think you want yellow high beams, do you?

:blink:

Yea with the 036 it would be a yellow high beam, not to bright I guess LOL

On a normal W124 its the fog light.

DerFuror
11-05-2013, 07:36 PM
There is an existing thread from one of the Eurasia members providing the part numbers for the yellow bumper mounted fog light lens covers.

szvook
11-05-2013, 09:18 PM
I think we had a pic of an 036 with yellow diving lights.

KarlC
11-05-2013, 09:58 PM
I think we had a pic of an 036 with yellow diving lights.

I thought that also but could not find it

fudgitive
11-06-2013, 02:50 AM
Was it one of these? I think it looks good.

http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?816-Amber-fog-reflectors&highlight=amber

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need2speed
11-06-2013, 08:38 AM
Damn, that's a good looking 888 car!

bing
11-06-2013, 08:57 AM
There is an existing thread from one of the Eurasia members providing the part numbers for the yellow bumper mounted fog light lens covers.


I think we had a pic of an 036 with yellow diving lights.


I thought that also but could not find it

Think it's Valerian's from France, as this was the norm for them back in the day. : http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?3585-OWNER-CHICHOIS&p=54954&highlight=interesting+blinker+lamps#post54954

KarlC
11-06-2013, 09:29 AM
Think it's Valerian's from France, as this was the norm for them back in the day. : http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?3585-OWNER-CHICHOIS&p=54954&highlight=interesting+blinker+lamps#post54954


Thanks for all of the photos of 036 cars that have them guys and yes these are the photos I remember, Valerian's car from France.....

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2012/12/19.jpg


Thank you.

For normal driving light color, there has a small bell attached plastic yellow over the bulb :


https://www.500eboard.com/forums/


For fog lamps in the bumper, there has a big piece change as it is made ​​entirely of glass yellow :

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/

johan h
11-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Is there anyone that has the part number for the yellow lenses (not the coverglass)?

Are they hard to find?

alexis
11-06-2013, 12:59 PM
Hi,
Yes, that was the norm in this country... But it looks outdated nowadays and lots of youngtimers are converted to white.
That said, I remember having read an article pretending a yellow beam is better than a white one in the fog and sometimes in rain.
Can anyone check that ?
Alex

KarlC
11-06-2013, 01:24 PM
I think its this part that is inside of the headlight, this one is chrome with a yellow bulb ...

KarlC
11-06-2013, 01:44 PM
More photos I found on another forum, I don't know if this applies to our 036 cars

KarlC
11-06-2013, 01:49 PM
Here is some info I found on another forum, I don't know if this applies to our 036 cars


Here is mini DIY as promised.

NOTE: some pics shown are quick photoshop pics from/of the finished product.
You'll need a dremel with steel cutting blade & long nose pliers.

pic1 - make template of the chrome reflector.
pic2 - template of chrome reflector.

pic3 - use dremel & cut/remove the "4" tabs indicated by red arrows.

pic4 - 4 tabs removed, all you see is the lip around the reflector.

pic5 - center smaller yellow reflector over template.
- use marker, mark the "6" cut lines on the lip.
- black out the "2" notch areas to be removed later.

KarlC
11-06-2013, 01:49 PM
More info, I don't know if this applies to our 036 cars


pic6 - "6" cut line shown, use dremel to cut.

pic7 - use long nose pliers, bend the "2" blacked out pieces of the lip down flat & use dremel to cut/remove completely.
- than use long nose pliers, bend down flat the "4" white pieces of the lip.

pic8 - final result. touch up with paint to prevent future rusting.
- repeat process for the other end.

pic9 - overlay on template to verify.

pic10 - installed in headlights.

Ron500E
11-06-2013, 02:46 PM
The bumper mounted fogs, in Amber, were used on early 129. Have been NLA for a while. Still listed in the EPC. They were not used-available in the USA but the "projector" is a direct drop in.
If you want the look without the hassle, go to an artist supply store and get some yellow or amber glass paint and put a small (10mm) dot of paint on the glass bulb (projector). Like the old "blue dot" taillights used on the Hot Rods of the 50s in the USA.

Part Number for the entire Amber foglights are:
129 820 0356 Left
129 820 0456 Right

For the Amber projector:
001 826 1681

Ron

bing
11-06-2013, 03:35 PM
I wouldn't follow the DIY by Cypress as above, as we all know this is for standard 124 headlight set up, which actually is the fog lamp . I would try to find the bumper fog lamps as Valerian's if you want to go down this route, but that's probably looking for a needle in a haystack!

frm1484
08-23-2016, 04:59 PM
reviving a very old thread, but am interested in going for this look on my eurospec (yes I realize I'm doing a yellow auxiliary high beam and not a fog and fully acknowledge I'm doing this to my personal aesthetic preference rather than any performance gain)......in post #7, on the blue car, is this look achieved by just using a yellow h3 bulb vs doing the full internal recovering of the reflector surface? It appears that way to me

500AMM
08-26-2016, 12:11 PM
reviving a very old thread, but am interested in going for this look on my eurospec (yes I realize I'm doing a yellow auxiliary high beam and not a fog and fully acknowledge I'm doing this to my personal aesthetic preference rather than any performance gain)......in post #7, on the blue car, is this look achieved by just using a yellow h3 bulb vs doing the full internal recovering of the reflector surface? It appears that way to me
You have a couple of options to convert the auxiliary high beams yellow on the 036;
1. replace with amber OE fog light reflectors from a regular W124
2. replace/adapt with amber OE fog light reflectors from a W123
(see Karl's post #13-16)

A simpler option may be to pick a set of the yellow bulb covers from the W124 reflectors and install them in your existing high beam reflectors. But I'm not sure how easy it really is to do.

The car at left in post #7 has the W124 reflectors, while the car at right has the W123 reflectors. The most yellow apperance is given with option 2 since the entire reflector has yellow chrome. In my taste is the W123 option the best one. You'll find both type of the reflectors on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=W124%20amber%20fog%20light%20reflecto r&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XW124%20ye llow%20fog%20light%20reflector.TRS0&_nkw=W124%20yellow%20fog%20light%20reflector&_sacat=0#item33bb61ed99

I have enclosed images of the OE amber fog lights for the 036 as well, as Ron listed in post #17, both the complete lamp and the amber lamp insert. Both are rare to find for sale, but I luckily scored a pair of NOS inserts on German eBay a year ago, they will go on my '92. It is just for the style in my case as well, but I'm not sure I'll do the high beams, depends on what color the car get.

(the images are shown in disorder from what I uploaded them, sorry, but I don't know how to control it)

frm1484
08-28-2016, 09:31 PM
Thanks, yeah I was wondering if the "bulb covers" you show would work, the inlet into the reflector for the h3 bulb of my 036 euro light doesn't have any apparent way to accept the yellow bulb cover unless that metal ring in the regular w124 yellow reflectors is detachable with the yellow bulb cover and would somehow create a pressure fit situation (see pic of reflector inlet below on my light)

I much prefer to go bulb cover route vs modifying reflector just to make the mod easily reversible by any potential next owner.....alternatively I was thinking about what if I just got a yellow H3 bulb and with the yellow bulb sitting in front of the reflector would the reflector bounce around enough light through the yellow part of the h3 bulb to create the desired unlit look? My concern is that the yellow portion of the h3 bulb is just going to be too small to have enough yellow light reflection and "reverberation" inside the reflector to get the desired unlit look (I.e. The desired unlit look being the blue (not teal) example in post 7)


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frm1484
08-28-2016, 09:35 PM
Sorry here is pics of inlet for light on mine https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2016/08/248.jpg

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2016/08/253.jpg


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frm1484
08-30-2016, 10:22 PM
Does anyone know if I can simply buy these reflectors from a standard w124 and repurpose the yellow "globe" bulb covers in the aux high-beam reflector of my 500e headlight?

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2016/08/260.jpg

Guy selling them on eBay says the globes are removable but won't fit for my 500e like I'm trying to do, but logic would tell me there should be a decent likelihood they would work if the regular w124 donor uses the same H3 bulb in this reflector (fog light in that car vs aux hi-beam in 036), I believe it still does use an H3 but happy to be corrected by someone more knowledgable...I'm not convinced eBay seller has ever held a 500e headlight and examined in detail to have the knowledge to say definitively that it will or won't work and im thinking he just doesn't want to ship something that has a higher than usual probability of being returned....fwiw, I'm not interested in swapping out my reflectors for these full units if the globe isn't easily transferable.....I have perfect brand new shiny reflectors in the lights I just bought already (not to mention its just a hunch but guessing this standard w124 reflector won't be an exact fit in an 036 headlight anyway)


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johan h
08-31-2016, 01:55 PM
I did it with yellow foil on the spoilerlights. I got the yellow bulb reflectors but they are different brands Hella/Bosch so i canīt make them fit without some kind of modification.

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2016/08/259.jpg

frm1484
08-31-2016, 09:56 PM
I did it with yellow foil on the spoilerlights. I got the yellow bulb reflectors but they are different brands Hella/Bosch so i canīt make them fit without some kind of modification.

Thanks, do you mean you can't make a full on reflector swap work because of hella/Bosch compatibility issues or do you mean that you can't just take the yellow bulb globes off of the regular w124 Bosch part and get to work on the hella 500e headlight?


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MikeinTampa
09-01-2017, 11:47 AM
Yellow headlights are referred to primarily as "selective yellow". The purpose of having yellow headlights is to improve visibility at night by removing blue to violet colors from the wavelength spectrum. On the color spectrum yellow light has a longer wavelength than blue to violet colors. The shorter the wavelength the harder it is for the human eye to see. When looking at the wavelength chart to the left, you can see yellow to red colors are ideal for seeing at night. As a side note, this is why BMW uses redish / orange color for its instrument clusters. In inclement weather, having a blue or white light shining on rain, fog or snow can cause a glaring effect thus reducing visibility. Yellow light does not reflect off water as easily as blue thus it can allow the driver to see the road more clearly.

I recently did me high beams by simply using PIAA 2500K bulbs and yellow Lamin-X film on the fogs. I can tell you that night time visibility with the high beams is quite pleasant and the road gets lit up very well quite a distance away. The color may appear to be not as bright as bright white high beams but to me it lights up the road just as well and is just easier on the eyes. I believe this is why some race cars use yellow lights when racing at night for prolonged periods of time.

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