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    WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Hi all,

    it it appears my EGAS is faulty and I'm in need of trying to source one.

    i saw a couple on eBay but at ridiculously high prices.

    wondering if anyone has one for sale? Must be able to ship to the UK.

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    USA E-GAS modules from a 400E/E420 are relatively inexpensive, usually under $125 USD. However, have you confirmed if a US-spec module will work properly in a Japan-spec car...?


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Are 6 cylinder (Zylinder) E-GAS modules different?


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by Ntrepid View Post
    Are 6 cylinder (Zylinder) E-GAS modules different?
    Yep, they are different. Acceptable donors are W124 or R129 chassis with ASR and M119 engine.

    The unknown part is what the regional difference are, if any. The part numbers are different for various regions... I'd sure like to know why.


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    USA E-GAS modules from a 400E/E420 are relatively inexpensive, usually under $125 USD. However, have you confirmed if a US-spec module will work properly in a Japan-spec car...?

    I have not, I can't buy any from eBay because their policy doesn't allow me to buy US items because of my UK account.
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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Hi Matin,

    I may have an E-Gas Module sitting in my garage which would suit your car. (It became "surplus to requirements" when I had to change the 420 engine that some idiot PO of my 500E had swopped out for a 4.2; I got the replacement 5.00 litre engine from an SL500, hence lots of redundant bits and bobs. Lots written on this site about this - whole thing best forgotten!).

    Both my and the SL500 cars are European spec.

    If someone can help with the correct p/n for the module, I can check out if the one I have would suit.

    However, I am away from home at the moment, and won't be able to check till Wednesday a.m., if that's OK?

    P.S. as I'm in the UK, your problem with eBay won't apply.

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    That sounds good.

    my current p/n is 124 545 26 32

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Hi Matin,

    I've looked out the Egas module I have - and sorry, the number's quite different to the one you gave.

    Have you tried Carl@w140.co.uk; he's helped me out with a number of bits and bobs for my 500E. Email him, he might be able to help?

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Ah, no worries, out of curiosity, what's the PN you have?

    i shall give Carl a go, thanks for the suggestion.

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by r44raven View Post
    I've looked out the Egas module I have - and sorry, the number's quite different to the one you gave.
    The R129 module shoulf be p/n 129-545-xx-32 (possibly -07-32?). Pretty likely it will work fine. Got a photo?


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    The number of the module I've got is 140 545 69 32. No pics at present. Will post some later.

    Meanwhile do you think it will work?

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by r44raven View Post
    The number of the module I've got is 140 545 69 32. No pics at present. Will post some later. Meanwhile do you think it will work?
    Oh bummer. The car is driveable with a W140 E-GAS module but the cruise control doesn't work.

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Ah crap!

    Well thank you very much for trying! I e-mailed Carl@w140.co.uk, he's got an S500 module, however, he wants £300! I suspect that the CC won't work on there either.

    Looks like I'm still on the hunt!

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by Matin View Post
    Ah crap!

    Well thank you very much for trying! I e-mailed Carl@w140.co.uk, he's got an S500 module, however, he wants £300! I suspect that the CC won't work on there either.

    Looks like I'm still on the hunt!

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    I suggest you ask Carl for the part number of the module he has. I'm sure gsxr on this forum will be able to confirm if it'll work OK - incl. the question of the cruise control. Assuming it is all OK, I don't think £300 is unrealistic - given the rarity?

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    ok

    how about this part#

    124 545 45 32

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by r44raven View Post
    I suggest you ask Carl for the part number of the module he has. I'm sure gsxr on this forum will be able to confirm if it'll work OK - incl. the question of the cruise control. Assuming it is all OK, I don't think £300 is unrealistic - given the rarity?
    I don't know...I saw alot of 400E modules on eBay for around $100...

    Considering the part is for an S500 aswell, don't really fancy paying £300 for it...
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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by captruff View Post
    ok

    how about this part#

    124 545 45 32

    Jeff
    Seems very similar to my part #!


    Dave, will this work for me?
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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by Matin View Post
    Seems very similar to my part #! Dave, will this work for me?
    124-545-45-32 is a USA-spec E500E-specific module. It SHOULD work fine... however as mentioned previously, I have no idea what the difference are between Japan modules and USA modules.

    BTW - £300 is awfully high for a W140 module, IMO. Those are the most common since MB built lots more W140's than 124 or 129. I bet you could snag a US-spec W140 module for <$100 USD.


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    124-545-45-32 is a USA-spec E500E-specific module. It SHOULD work fine... however as mentioned previously, I have no idea what the difference are between Japan modules and USA modules.

    BTW - £300 is awfully high for a W140 module, IMO. Those are the most common since MB built lots more W140's than 124 or 129. I bet you could snag a US-spec W140 module for <$100 USD.

    thank you!
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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    For clarity, and for future reference - and to try and unfuddle my befuddled brain (!) - can we confirm that, broadly speaking (accepting regional variations):

    1. An E gas module from a 400/420E will fully function in a 500E?
    2. An E gas module p/n commencing 140 will also work, but the cruise control won't function?
    3. An E gas module p/n commencing 129 will function fully in a 500E?


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by r44raven View Post
    For clarity, and for future reference - and to try and unfuddle my befuddled brain (!) - can we confirm that, broadly speaking (accepting regional variations):

    1. An E gas module from a 400/420E will fully function in a 500E?
    2. An E gas module p/n commencing 140 will also work, but the cruise control won't function?
    3. An E gas module p/n commencing 129 will function fully in a 500E?
    Based on my experiments - yes, that is correct. The only thing I haven't been able to test is a "wrong region" module. I also don't know what the differences are between the 400E and R129 modules which seem to work ok in the E500E.

    Keep in mind that non-ASR cars have T/LLR modules and these DO NOT work in the E500E or any other model with ASR.


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    If I can't find one soon,

    i may may just purchase this one as its showing in stock and if the region difference doesn't work, I can always return it

    http://www.genuineautoparts.com/uk/p...bC12OC1nYXM%3D
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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    I've run Euro EGAS modules in US cars sans issue.

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by Matin View Post
    If I can't find one soon, i may may just purchase this one as its showing in stock and if the region difference doesn't work, I can always return it

    http://www.genuineautoparts.com/uk/p...bC12OC1nYXM%3D
    That part number is NLA... I'm almost certain that if you did place an order, it would get cancelled. Naperville also shows it available, but it is not... the online dealers do not show inventory. Some dealers will update their specific catalog to mark an item 'discontinued' after having to cancel a customer order, but that doesn't automatically update the website from other vendors.

    Naperville will also let you place an order that will be cancelled:
    http://www.mbdirectparts.com/oe-merc...enz/1245454532

    MB Classic confirms NLA on the USA-spec module:
    http://partssearch.mercedes-benz-cla...ts/A1245454532


    Interestingly, the EPC shows p/n 124-545-44-32 for a Japan-spec car, and MB Classic shows this might still be available new?
    http://partssearch.mercedes-benz-cla...ts/A1245454432
    http://www.genuineautoparts.com/uk/p...nit-1245454432


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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by jhodg5ck View Post
    I've run Euro EGAS modules in US cars sans issue.
    Maybe Klink knows what the diff is between regions!


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    I know of some NOS 420 EGAS modules but they're the last of the last
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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by jhodg5ck View Post
    I know of some NOS 420 EGAS modules but they're the last of the last
    I heard a rumor about those! I shoulda snagged one, lol.

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Maybe Klink knows what the diff is between regions!

    Well, it could be as simple as regional preference in throttle valve curving, but one difference that I know about ASR functioning USA VS. Euro in this timeframe is that the decel slip regulation (opening of the throttle valve to reduce rear wheel slip on decel) was toggled off on USA version vehicles due to the sheer legalistic/liability horror of it here in the land of the lawyer. It is there and fully functional in later vehicles with ESP, and so on. Now, my assumption was that they had toggled this off in the ASR control unit, which is the unit that would actually make the "request" of braking torque reduction to the EA, but maybe it was actually toggled off in the EA?
    Putting the fun in dysfunction...

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    Re: WTB: EGAS for 92 500E

    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    Well, it could be as simple as regional preference in throttle valve curving, but one difference that I know about ASR functioning USA VS. Euro in this timeframe is that the decel slip regulation (opening of the throttle valve to reduce rear wheel slip on decel) was toggled off on USA version vehicles due to the sheer legalistic/liability horror of it here in the land of the lawyer. It is there and fully functional in later vehicles with ESP, and so on. Now, my assumption was that they had toggled this off in the ASR control unit, which is the unit that would actually make the "request" of braking torque reduction to the EA, but maybe it was actually toggled off in the EA?
    Apologies for butting in on this one (and I suspect I'm not alone in this).

    We are all indebted and appreciative for all the informative answers and support you've given to us plebs on this site, Klink, . but for us reprobates could you please translate this latest submission into plain English!?

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    The direct replacement for that number is 124-545-44-32 and I can get a new one out of Germany. Please email me at the office for more info.
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