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    Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    ADMIN EDIT: Link to old thread with R&D info, photos, etc, etc: https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5095

    We have finally finished our other exhaust projects and plan in doing a 2017 run of the 500e exhaust.

    For Pre-order participants only 2015 prices stay the same.

    Front section with test pipes $1500
    Rear section factory turndown $1500.00
    Brabus style $1500.00

    We are ordering enough to keep 10 of each on the shelf to build inventory. Inventory prices will be slightly higher in comparison to the Pre-Order prices.

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    Front section $1580.00
    Turn down $1600.00
    Brabus style $1600.00

    25% deposit is due for pre-orders to hold your place and secure 2015 pricing.

    Catalysts pricing 50 State legal $586.00 these are made to order and require a 2-3 week lead time.

    Deposits due March 31st.

    Exhausts will be ready to ship Mid April to early May.

    You can either PayPal me direct (5thscaleracer@verizon.net) or contact Matt at Leistung Autohaus and place a deposit with him sales@leistungautohaus.com.

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    What is the price for front section with bolt-in catalysts, in addition to the test pipes? Would there be a price difference for 49-state cats vs 50-state?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    What is the price for front section with bolt-in catalysts, in addition to the test pipes? Would there be a price difference for 49-state cats vs 50-state?


    The front sections come with test pipes, the catalysts are built to order let me verify current pricing.

    CA cats are more expensive let me verify 2017 cat prices.

    The cats are 600CPI units we run two in parallel format to optimize volume.




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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    What does the rear section consist of? I have a y pipe. I would be interested in a muffler?

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    Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    What does the rear section consist of? I have a y pipe. I would be interested in a muffler?
    It comes with its own Y pipe which guarantees that the rear muffler hangs correctly.

    Picture of front with 50 state catalysts and the rear with brabus tips
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Bump and reminder....

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    The exhaust looks promising, are there any Dyno results? What is the smallest Diameter the tubing gets and the exhaust looks crush-bent is that correct?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by spkalka View Post
    The exhaust looks promising, are there any Dyno results? What is the smallest Diameter the tubing gets and the exhaust looks crush-bent is that correct?
    Unfortunately no dyno results yet.

    I had a few volunteers from the previous bunch to dyno their car but no results yet.

    The pipe is 3" they are mandrel bent the crush section is about 1/16" indented to clear the subframe. It does not restrict flow in any way since it's done in a straight section.

    The choice was to hang the pipe low under the subframe or tuck it nice and tight to the body to prevent the exhaust from snagging or possibly scraping on a lowered 500e.

    The front section is a 2.25" y pipe and joins to a 3" oval bent pipe.

    The cat section splits into dual 2.25" sections.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Interested in placing an order. Do you have any pics with of one installed with the Brabus tips?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    Interested in placing an order. Do you have any pics with of one installed with the Brabus tips?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Just trying to make sure I understand the pricing. For complete system front, back and Cats would $3,586. Is that correct?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Yes that's correct.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by 5thscaleracer View Post
    The pipe is 3" they are mandrel bent the crush section is about 1/16" indented to clear the subframe. It does not restrict flow in any way since it's done in a straight section.

    The choice was to hang the pipe low under the subframe or tuck it nice and tight to the body to prevent the exhaust from snagging or possibly scraping on a lowered 500e.
    FWIW... the factory pipes are a similar design, some straight sections have an indentation for clearance... the crossover pipe from the driver side exhaust manifold is really crushed (need to remove heat shield to see this), and the stock muffler inlet pipe also has a flattened area for subframe clearance in the same area as the Leistung.

    Side note on dyno testing: After getting good dyno data with the stock exhaust, the car should have the LH adaptation reset and then be driven for several hundred miles with the new Leistung system to allow adaptation with the modified exhaust flow... THEN put on the dyno for the 'after' testing. And, no other changes should be made besides the exhaust swap...


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    I'd be happy to be a test rat and pre and post dyno my car after install. I have a local closed cell dyno that if I go to just a few days apart on days with similar weather and temps should give a nice baseline/gain reading. I just need to get my car first....hopefully should be here by Wednesday.

    The construction and quality looks great, and as nice as the Brabus style tips look, it would look even better if we had a cutout for the tips in the rear valence. I think I will probably go with the turned down tips instead.

    Any sound clips available?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by Maui View Post
    Just trying to make sure I understand the pricing. For complete system front, back and Cats would $3,586. Is that correct?
    Are there any other options out there ?


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    For anyone planning to dyno an E500E (or 400E/E420), this is required reading:

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2452


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Are there any cat back systems available now??
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    Are there any cat back systems available now??
    None...

    We have been out of stock for a while.




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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz View Post
    Are there any other options out there ?


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz View Post
    Are there any other options out there ?
    Fox Germany offers cat-back systems. Photos and details are in JC220's owner thread:

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9507

    Scroll through his thread between post #'s 395 and 425 for additional info on pricing and vendors.

    Should be under ~$1000 USD with shipping to USA but you'd have to contact the vendor in Europe to inquire about shipping to this side of the pond.


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    Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Fox exhaust quality is questionable. The SS canisters I have used them on other projects one being a 01 Audi s4. After 40k miles the exhaust packing started to fall apart and developed a loud rattle internally.

    They are defiantly not Remus or Sebring quality status.

    You can think of them as the flowmaster of Germany.

    Btw the S4 had bigger turbos and 700ish HP. So the mufflers were probably not intended for that much power.

    Exhaust was later swapped for a milltek.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Can I sign up for a cat back, Brabus style?
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Sure..

    Deposits will be $375.00
    PayPal is 5thscaleracer@verizon.net

    Estimated shipping date is May 1st ,2017


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    Deposit sent, Thanks!
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    JC, just to clarify... does the rear section (2 pipes + muffler) connect to both the stock catalyst/front pipe, and also your custom Leistung front pipe?


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    JC, just to clarify... does the rear section (2 pipes + muffler) connect to both the stock catalyst/front pipe, and also your custom Leistung front pipe?

    Yes you are correct.

    The resonator delete pipe is universal. It will bolt up to the factory catalyst or my version.

    So it's not necessary to buy the front section unless the existing unit is in bad condition.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    A note to those who are sitting on the fence regarding purchase of these exhausts:

    In recent days, I've received two informal, unsolicited and independently sourced reports from previous purchasers of these 5SR exhaust systems, that they are clearly exceeding the "gray trunk and door switches" in terms of overall attractiveness and 'enhancement ability' to members of the opposite sex.




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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Hi!

    Would it be possible to purchase just the California catalyst ---- to replace my existing OE catalyst? (The heat shields are rotting away).
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlaa View Post
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    Would it be possible to purchase just the California catalyst ---- to replace my existing OE catalyst? (The heat shields are rotting away).
    It's not possible.

    Because the catalyst will not bolt onto the factory Y section. I will only offer the catalyst to customers who have purchased the full front section.

    The factory part is one long piece if you need the catalyst your choices are...

    1. Buy a new OEM unit
    2. Buy my full front section with catalyst
    3. Have a muffler shop hack a set of cats in place of the OE units.




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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    It's not possible.

    Because the catalyst will not bolt onto the factory Y section. I will only offer the catalyst to customers who have purchased the full front section.

    The factory part is one long piece if you need the catalyst your choices are...

    1. Buy a new OEM unit
    2. Buy my full front section with catalyst
    3. Have a muffler shop hack a set of cats in place of the OE units.


    My catalysts have a proprietary flange which are custom made specifically for the front section. This is a laser cut flange designed to center the catalyst for customers who use the front section with a factory resonator.

    Flanges are not available as a stand alone part.



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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlaa View Post
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    Would it be possible to purchase just the California catalyst ---- to replace my existing OE catalyst? (The heat shields are rotting away).
    I should have a good used factory catalysts from a E420/500E

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    I should have a good used factory catalysts from a E420/500E

    Local pick up only due to size

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    Ill have to check w Southwest Airlines.
    I have a friend from the Bay Area driving down to socal next week.....I'm sure he would take back to Bay Area if needed.

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Deposit sent after great conversation on the phone, looking forward to it!

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Assembly begins this week kits will be ready to ship as early as Friday as late as Monday May 1st.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

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    Assembly begins this week kits will be ready to ship as early as Friday as late as Monday May 1st.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Brabus tips are ready to ship... PayPal invoices will be sent tonight.

    Exhaust kits will ship once finally payment is received.

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Slight delay on the factory turn down tip exhaust kits.

    But they will be ready to ship tomorrow!!!!

    Thank you to all that supported this run of exhaust kits.

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Update: sold.

    Just to give another option.. I have a slightly used one from the last build for sale.. $1200

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11246

    Don't want to hijack this sale, but Matt from Leistung is the one who told me to post it on the boards anyhow.
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    As an FYI to all... We are down to 2 kits both Turndown tip (factory style)

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Yo 5SR .....

    Couple of questions:

    1) Are you planning another production run of the systems (both factory style and Brabus)? I can guarantee that in the next year or so, there is going to be significant demand among folks here (probably new owners) for your exhaust kits.

    2) Do you still have the front section + cat kits available? What's your stock level on those?

    When I get my kit, I'm going to try my level best to dyno test things with my previous cat-back system I've been running since 2004 (a Walker DynoMax system) and then the 5SR Brabus system. Unfortunately it won't be a great comparison because my existing system is not stock, but I'd still be interested to see any differences for shits and giggles against what I have. If your system dynos out at +10 HP or more than I have, then I will send you (via Jeff Wong) two bottles of the champagne of your choice (up to and including Dom Perignon).

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Yo 5SR .....

    Couple of questions:

    1) Are you planning another production run of the systems (both factory style and Brabus)? I can guarantee that in the next year or so, there is going to be significant demand among folks here (probably new owners) for your exhaust kits.

    2) Do you still have the front section + cat kits available? What's your stock level on those?

    When I get my kit, I'm going to try my level best to dyno test things with my previous cat-back system I've been running since 2004 (a Walker DynoMax system) and then the 5SR Brabus system. Unfortunately it won't be a great comparison because my existing system is not stock, but I'd still be interested to see any differences for shits and giggles against what I have. If your system dynos out at +10 HP or more than I have, then I will send you (via Jeff Wong) two bottles of the champagne of your choice (up to and including Dom Perignon).

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    1) Yes we can always do another run if there are enough supporters, given that the E500E is such a limited production car the demand is very low. Aslong as we own the jigs these exhausts kits can always be produced.

    2) whats left are the following
    1 Front section with 50 state legal cat and a test pipe
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Yo 5SR,

    Can you kindly provide the board with an update on current stock/availability of the front and rear sections? Sold out?

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Front sections still the same availability.

    I have two rear turndown kits available left.

    Possibly 1 brabus kit might be available by next week waiting on final confirmation.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    If you've been sittin' on the fence for a 5SR kit, now's the time to score one....or stockpile one for the future.....

    Thx for the update 5SR !!

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    If you've been sittin' on the fence for a 5SR kit, now's the time to score one....or stockpile one for the future.....

    Thx for the update 5SR !!
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Some guys dropped out. 3 turndown kits are available.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Sorry to hear that, 5SR. I hope you get some new takers. Guys, get them while still available !!


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    I can certainly vouch for the quality of 5SR product. This is an excellent exhaust system and I'm extremely pleased with the build quality.
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    I can't wait for the tingle in my loins from my butt-dyno going off the scale after I install mine.


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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Update: sold

    Agreed on the build quality.. main pipe is a three inch and welds are very clean. this should be a lifer kind of purchase. Again don't want to hijack but my barely used set is still available.. thanks

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11246
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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    I have one Brabus style tip available.

    Original buyer backed out.



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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    5SR has been awfully quiet lately. That must mean he's sold out of product.

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    Re: Flieben /Leistung Autohaus 500e/e500 exhaust kit pre-order

    Quote Originally Posted by w124rider View Post
    Still available?
    Brabus style tip is sold out

    I only have a few turndown factory style tips left

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    5SR has been awfully quiet lately. That must mean he's sold out of product.
    Not all sold out.. been busy with other projects mainly custom cam grinds lol...

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