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    FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Usually i dont post these cars at auction from japan for sale but this was interesting example
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    Re: 1995 E60 178KM 6.0 V8 japan auction black/black

    VIN? Looks like a Limited in 009.

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    Re: 1995 E60 178KM 6.0 V8 japan auction black/black

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    VIN? Looks like a Limited in 009.

    no vin was listed
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    Re: 1995 E60 178KM 6.0 V8 japan auction black/black

    Quote Originally Posted by Dario View Post
    no vin was listed
    Link to the auction web page for this car?


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan auction)

    I saw it pop on my fb page under nostalgic cars



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    Re: FS: 1995 E60, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan auction)

    D'oh. We need the source link to the JDM auction... that will include the info sheet with the VIN.

    EDIT: The dealer is located in Dubai, but appears to only have a Faceplant and Instagram account.
    https://www.facebook.com/Nostalgic-c...0426582713414/

    My guess is they already bought the car at auction in Japan, so unless someone has access to info on JDM acutions w hich have already ended, it may be difficult to get more info without contacting the new owner/dealer.


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    Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0L, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dario View Post
    I saw it pop on my fb page under nostalgic cars



    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...40426582713414
    Nice link. Some interesting cars show up. Like three AMG models with the M120 E 60 and 450 hp non catalyst stage. But since it only shows three images and no image like this one, one must simply believe.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0L, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    WDB1240361C156658


    Parameter Value
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    957 N/A
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    Re: FS: 1995 E500 Limited 6.0L, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by hcbotje View Post
    WDB1240361C156658
    If that is the VIN of this car... it's a 957+958! Sweet!

    http://www.datamb.com/vin/BMm8YVdBQNAJaKyDg


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    VIN WDB1240361C156658 = No. 16 with 957/958.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by weide1 View Post
    VIN WDB1240361C156658 = No. 16 with 957/958.
    This cannot be confirmed until other forms of authentication are carried out. We could be looking at another "aftermarket" with an altered datacard

    See the thread on confirming original E60 AMG.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by weide1 View Post
    VIN WDB1240361C156658 = No. 16 with 957/958.
    If you count on VIN numbers- No. 10.
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Looks car has AMG Optik Paket. But i don't see 772 code in VIN. Or is 772 not for W124?

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by weide1 View Post
    Looks car has AMG Optik Paket. But i don't see 772 code in VIN. Or is 772 not for W124?
    MB never offered any Optik Packages for 124036. AMG Japan well. Made by...who knows.
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    During my visit to J-Auto in Setagaya, I was able to confirm with the staff there that those body kits are not original from factory. They use heat guns to fit them to the 500 widebody.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by 195910 View Post
    This cannot be confirmed until other forms of authentication are carried out. We could be looking at another "aftermarket" with an altered datacard

    See the thread on confirming original E60 AMG.
    Unfortunately, there is no way to determine how to tell if a datacard was altered or not - correct? I remember the thread, but IIRC it was mostly speculation.



    Quote Originally Posted by cargen View Post
    During my visit to J-Auto in Setagaya, I was able to confirm with the staff there that those body kits are not original from factory. They use heat guns to fit them to the 500 widebody.
    Correct. AMG never created an 036-specific body kit, and never fitted one from the factory (or AMG Germany, AFAIK). I've only seen them on Japanese 036's. The pieces have to be stretched to fit the 036 flares. I personally like the appearance, but it hurts the value as a collector car - ditto for the aftermarket R129-style console wood (which I'm not crazy about).


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Unfortunately, there is no way to determine how to tell if a datacard was altered or not - correct? I remember the thread, but IIRC it was mostly speculation.
    Not speculations my friend, and I will further confirm my statements using data for a REAL 1of12 Factory E60 Limited which I will look at soon.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    There is of course a file. The alteration history can not be altered. Even adding or removal of codes, etc. will be stored to assure no car can be faked. It is made for proper documentation of a vehicle through its service time. And please guys forget the fairy tail of 12 cars once and for all.


    Further there was never a specific amg body kit for the 036 available. Everything in this regards is 100% retrofitted. Either original parts or fake parts.
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    If records exist, that's great, but there's no way to tell from the datacard - correct? Only by contacting someone at AMG / MB in Germany with access to that information? Where does the alteration history reside, and does it show the date & odometer reading?


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    No Dave, someone who can access the vedoc system can see in the history tab all changes, adding or removals, as well the initial data card (delivery status) can be displayed.
    And further, it is a very very limited circle of persons to make alterations. So to talk about "another" car with modified data card is just not right.
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rouven036 View Post
    No Dave, someone who can access the vedoc system can see in the history tab all changes, adding or removals, as well the initial data card (delivery status) can be displayed.
    Sweet! What's the chances of getting someone to pull up all 45 of the 957+958 VIN's in VeDoc to get the official scoop?

    BTW - it sounds like my previous statement is still accurate. The datacard in the EPC does not show this information; it's only visible to MB dealer personnel with VeDoc access. Right?


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Correct, doesn't show in epc. Nevertheless if there are retrofits or comments then there is a option in the vedoc to put a text note which will then appear after the next major update as a FO note in the specific construction group even in the EPC
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    FS: 1995 E60 LIMITED BLACK/BLACK 179k KM JAPAN - USS Tokyo

    FS: 1995 E60 LIMITED BLACK/BLACK 179k KM JAPAN - USS Tokyo

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    So this one is up for auction right now? Looks like the auction ends tomorrow, 3/2...


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    I have more pictures available and for some reason there is a plate on center console by AMG that says M119E engine with 300kw ( 408 PS ) ... I am confused.. Any info on that?

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    Engine number matches the Current datacard which is a good sign, but need to confirm with factory datacard and other documentation if possible.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    The 300kw/408ps appears to be a decal on the ashtray... typical Japan bling. No clue if AMG Japan did something to increase power or not.

    Bummer that the AMG suspension may have been removed; the white springs and red struts do not appear to be original AMG E60 components. Ditto for the white-face gauges. The controller in the center rolltop box is for a stationary heater, if this was retrofitted, it's a bummer they did not get the proper console wood piece to have the controller in the factory location.

    Still a very cool car, but the above items may impact the value a bit. If buying for myself to keep, I wouldn't care. Buying to flip/resell, this stuff could make resale a PITA.


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Black, 178kkm (Japan / Dubai)

    If it is one of the factory E60 LTD its definitely worth the investment, but it will take a big budget to restore it as it should. All the aftermarket rubbish has to be replaced including the Fake AMG styling kit and interior.

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