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    What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Hi all- I would like to check if anyone can help to determine what the original factory stereo would have been for a 1992 German delivered 500E?

    My cars head unit was replaced many moons ago & there is no manual. There also is no Tuner Module in the trunk which leads me to think it would not have been fitted with a Becker 1432.

    I think a clue is the head unit should take a regular antenna jack. A Becker Europa maybe? Or a BE 2210 also takes a regular Jack.

    A Blaupunkt unit is also a possibility. Someone out there must have a Euro 500E with the original Stereo - all input appreciated!
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    This will be interesting. I don't know if the Euros were different or not, but I replaced my '92 stereo, and the next buyer won't see any of that original stuff in there either. I think the antennae jacks have been standardized since Since. The jack that plugs into my aftermarket Alpine circa 2010 is the same as they were back in the late 80's when I installed stereos as an after school job. The fact that these cars are basically the same the world over due to limited production (no RH drive, etc.) tells me the stereo is probably the same.

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    My German 1992 got the Becker - BE1460 + Soundsystem (Code 810)
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    My German 1992 got the Becker - BE1460 + Soundsystem (Code 810)
    Thanks bb1 - I'll check my datacard again but I'm pretty sure mine does it have code 810 or any mention of the Stereo
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    If you have one big speaker in each front door, you will have code 810...
    but if not, I would use one out of the "Becker Mexico 2000" series for correct look, or maybe the MB Exquisit from 1993-1995.. very good too!

    Do you have still the switch in the middle/between the seats for "fader"?

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    I'm a bit confused!

    bb1, you say if you don't have big speakers in the front doors (i.e. no code 810), then you can use a Becker Mexico 2000. But isn't a Mexico 2000 a BE 1460? Which if I understand it right you had in your 1992 car with code 810 (Sound System) i.e. big speaker in front doors!

    Have I missed something here?

    I'm in the same situation as JC220, in trying to establish the original equipment fitted. Mine is a late 1992 build Euro spec car, with codes 810 (Sound System) and 819 (CD changer) - both long since removed. The BE 1460 could be a candidate, but as far as I can tell it doesn't have controls for the CD changer?

    Anyone help?

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Yes, BE1460 can be connected with "10 CD's changer Silverstone or 6-fold CD-changer Mercedes-Benz", it says in the users manual.

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    If you have one big speaker in each front door, you will have code 810...
    but if not, I would use one out of the "Becker Mexico 2000" series for correct look, or maybe the MB Exquisit from 1993-1995.. very good too!

    Do you have still the switch in the middle/between the seats for "fader"?

    List of the Mexico 2000 Family:
    bb1,

    That was a nice catalogue. Do you mind posting an image of the page listing Becker 1492 please?

    (I bought a BNIB Becker 1492 Exquisit from member doolar last years)
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    If you have one big speaker in each front door, you will have code 810...
    but if not, I would use one out of the "Becker Mexico 2000" series for correct look, or maybe the MB Exquisit from 1993-1995.. very good too!

    Do you have still the switch in the middle/between the seats for "fader"?

    List of the Mexico 2000 Family:
    OK so here is more info on my car & the Stereo fitment as I understand it;

    The original stereo is gone & there was an ICE install including a sub in the rear parcel shelf all of which are long gone & I have replaced the shelf etc.

    We have a 1987 w124 200 from new & it came with a Blaupunkt Stereo. I also have a 300E-24 I bought about ten years ago – a 1990 model which also had a Blaupunkt Stereo.

    The Becker BE1460 is high end & appears stock on USA models. HOWEVER – it requires a FM tuner(s) in the trunk. Which my cars does not currently have & appears that it never had.

    My car does have the centre console fader switch - which still functions just fine.

    There are no Door speakers either.

    The wiring to the power antenna appears stock and as I said before there is a simple Antenna Jack at the head unit location and looks original. There is also no original cables through the car for the Amps in the trunk.

    The non existent FM tuner / Amp, lack of door speakers & the Antenna wiring would suggest my car did not have a Becker BE1460 perhaps another ‘lesser’ Becker Model. I imagine on Euro 500E’s this would be a fairly typical setup – so what Stereo!?

    Thanks for the pic of the catalogue also – I’ll do more research on each unit to see which ones do not require a Tuner in the trunk.

    If I am going to the effort to change the Stereo I’d like to be fairly certain the model I choose would have been OE fitment.

    What stereos do our fellow German & Russian member’s cars have?

    But on the flip side – should I require to install a Tuner etc I may not attempt it all. Why? Well in the UK we will be doing away with FM signal within a few years. Going DAB instead. So it may be better to choose a Continental Stereo or similar with DAB capability now rather than fit an original unit with all the wiring & tuners etc only to become defunct.
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    The Becker BE1460 is high end & appears stock on USA models. HOWEVER – it requires a FM tuner(s) in the trunk.
    Just FYI. USA-spec 124 sedans all had the same stereos - meaning, no optional head units - I think from beginning to end of production. I'm not familiar with the BE1460 though.

    AFAIK, these were the 3 head units used in the 124 sedans in USA:

    1986-1990: BE-754 - Has internal amp + tuner, external fader wheel. Standard system has no trunk amps or door speakers (except 1990, with "active bass" option).
    1991-1993: BE-1432 - Requires external amp + tuner in trunk, external fader wheel. System includes front door speakers.
    1994-1995: BE-1492 - Has internal amp + tuner + fader. System includes front door speakers.

    Confusing things slightly is the 1990 crossover year where they used the old head unit but offered door speakers (I think) with the "sound system", option code 810. Additionally, from 1990 or 91 through 1993 (or 95?) some lower-end models were offered with an "active bass" system (code 814) which had door speakers, but a single amp in the trunk. The higher-end "sound system" option had dual trunk amps. All M119 sedans in USA had the higher-end "sound system". I think 1990 had no door speakers standard, and active bass optional. From 91-up, diesels and 6-cyl cars typically had "active bass" standard with "sound system" as optional.

    Wagons are different, there was never a 'sound system' option that I know of. And, I think coupe/cabrio may have had different options over the years, but still used the same heat units as described above. (??)

    Or something like that. Sorry I can't help with the Euro radio question...

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Yes, what Mercedes and Becker did with the Radio Systems is very confusing!


    The hole list i posted, are all "Becker Mexico 2000" all different versions, for USA, Japan, EU..powered sometimes 2x20w, sometimes 4x20w, RDS, Fader function incl. sometimes not... switch style is little bit different on the versions for fader.

    My "German" Car got the BE1460 + Soundsystem (810) + CD Changer (818).. my BE1460 got no fader build in, that's why you have that extra switch! With Soundsystem you got the extra tuner & Amps with 4x25w in the trunk.

    The 1460 can control the CD Changer too!

    The BE1470 is the same as 1460, but instead 4x20w.. BE1432 same as 1460, but for US


    If you have no soundsytem, (don't confuse with active Sub Version here) but a extra fader Switch, you can use Radio with 2x20w, the switch splits for 4 speaker, but eats power!
    If you have a radio with fader build in, kick the switch out... my one had a switch, but disabled.. way better power now!

    To stick a complete Soundsystem in, you will need a donar car... because you will need a lot of stuff!

    To upgrade to the old original style with just 4 Speakers, take a Mexico 2000 unit with or without second trunk unit (2x20w/4x20w) or Special/Exqusit Single unit (4x25w).
    4 nice new speakers (Rainbow IL-x4.7), maybe a very small AMP like PIONEER GM-D1004 and mount it behind the footrest of the passengerside.

    Problem with the Mexicos, mostly 2 unit System and 20w @ 3OHM, Special/Exqusite got 25w @ 4 OHM like normal today

    Price and work.... I would go the Special/Exqusite way with new Speakers and little Amp..
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    What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    I am not very familiar with radio units but one of my Euro 500E's came with an original radio as per below instructions in the car and photos.

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Be1431 is a early Mexico 2000 unit, around 1990

    Check your Datacard for Codes, if the car was ordered with this Unit:
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    My car with a Becker Mexico Radio 2000 came with a 756 code, I didn't find it on the above attachments though.


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    Thanks BB1 for the great documents! On researching more I bought a Becker BE1480 which has a in built amp + tuner so an Antenna can connect right into the back of it.

    I believe this is the unit my car would most likely have had originally given the lack of Tuner or Amp in the trunk.

    Looking forward to getting it installed! Just need to find some plugs for the back of it I'll get to work on that.
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    1480: Fader should be build in? USA Version? Should have 2x25w?

    Powerplug is A 000 821 05 65 - 1x
    Connection Pin is A 012 545 73 28 - 4x

    Speaker connections should be the old Mercedes/German Din 41529 Plug
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    1480: Fader should be build in? USA Version? Should have 2x25w?

    Powerplug is A 000 821 05 65 - 1x
    Connection Pin is A 012 545 73 28 - 4x

    Speaker connections should be the old Mercedes/German Din 41529 Plug
    Thankyou! I forgot to mention my car has ASR Defeat switch installed at the fader location. (So the fader was un-used) These are pictures of the becker 1480 model I bought-

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    You got the line out box mounted, so you have now options:

    - Run the Two Speaker Plugs (L+R) to the org fader switch (to split for 4 Speakers). then to the correct speakers. Fader in the radio will not work, but got the switch.
    - Run the Two Speaker Plugs (L+R ) parallel to front and rear speaker. L to Front and Rear, R to front and Rear. Yes, the Becker can Handle 2Ohm, same setup as with fader switch for splitting. The fader in radio will not work.
    - Run the line out to a little new amp and then to the speakers. The fader in radio will not work. Set up on the amp how you like it with front and rear.
    - Run the Two Speaker Plugs (L+R) to the org fader switch (to split for 4 Speakers). From their with 4 Speaker to a new amp (High Power Input) from there to 4 Speakers...

    Yes Becker confusing rules �� May have forgotten an option...


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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    OK so the Becker arrived safe all the way from California. It is in great condition too. But plugs I was expecting to be Power etc – are actually Plastic Pins!! EDIT - THE PLASTIC PINS WAS AN INCORRECT ASSUMPTION

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    Is this normal!? I hope i’m not missing something else now too. The lower middle connection is earth & the other 2x spade terminals are possibly Power Antenna / Dash illumination but what are those 3x pins at the Line Out Module?

    I just need to know how to have these connections for now;

    • Earth - (I know that terminal at least )
    • + Perm Power for clock setting etc
    • + Switched Ignition Power
    • Power antenna trigger


    BB1- my 500E has ASR delete already. So the fader switch is no longer used. I intend to now buy an aftermarket discrete Amp & set this up so as the 2x becker outputs go into the Amp & then out to the 4x speakers in the car which will also be upgraded to new Rainbow etc. I would like to set up the fader in the Amp only once so I presume only the Left / Right balance in the head unit will operate. Which is fine for me.

    EDIT- shot also showing connector to LHS rear of unit. It has a cover over the terminal - could this be +?

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Well I tried again searching for a stereo wired like mine & can find nothing at all. Looking at the Radio again it would appear the Earth connection is the very back left spade terminal. At the Top Right Spade terminal is the Antenna power. I think the final, lower middle spade terminal is something to do with the alarm.


    So that leaves the other 3 wires (Going into the Line Out Amp). I presume they are-


    Red – Constant + Power
    Yellow / White – + Switched Ignition
    Blue - + Illumination?

    There are simply best guesses since I can find zero info on this.


    On testing the unit with + power applied to the red & yellow cables nothing happens at all. It won’t turn on so I presume I have a dud Becker on my hands. Or it may be the code thing - maybe it stays dead until the correct code is inputed- or dead internal battery?
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    I believe the following should be the same for what your doing, if the radio is good and wired right, you should get the word CODE displayed, see below

    To recode a radio, follow this procedure:
    Turn ignition key to lock position one. Turn on the radio. The word CODE appears on the display with the letter "C" flashing. Enter the first digit of the radio's anti-theft code as it appears on the code card. The word CODE will disappear and the first number that you have entered will be displayed, followed by four dashes, e.g. 1 - - - -. Enter the rest of the five digit anti-theft code. Each number will be displayed when it is keyed in. When all five anti-theft code numbers have been correctly entered, the FIRST NUMBER IN THE CODE FLASHES, ALERTING YOU TO CONFIRM THE CODE. Press the Scan SC Seek or Tune button to confirm the code. Radio operation will now resume.
    Good luck to you.

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Plug on the right top corner in your Pic:

    From right to left!
    - Ground (31) - the lower one
    - ign. + (15)
    - Light/Illumination (58)
    - + (30)
    - 6,3mm Plug with old Connector for Automatik Antenna Supply

    - white old 6,3mm connector on the bottom is connected the the alarm system. "Pull the radio and the Alarm comes on"
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Guys thanks so much! I just realised I am a total noob!! The top right plug pins look so much like plastic but they are actually a Matt black anodised plating.

    Im getting the code message now at least ��

    So so I will try to input code & see what happens.
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Code worked & it appears to have powered up AOK. (Thanks for the code instructions Oscar - I still need to find an original manual for this now too. It’s late now so I’ll hook speakers up tomorrow & try a cassette tape in it. (Brady bunch soundtrack)

    I sure hope sticking +12V to the Line out amp didn’t hurt anything.... More haste, less speed as they say.

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    I also found this reference re- radio fitment people reading this thread might find useful

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    You can also run the LineOut Cabels to the new Amp, White/Yellow is Ground for both Chinch Cabels and Blue and Red, Left + Right or Right + Left...

    but you will need to build/soldering a little connection/adapter for the Chinch Cable

    Found that for you:
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    You can also run the LineOut Cabels to the new Amp, White/Yellow is Ground for both Chinch Cabels and Blue and Red, Left + Right or Right + Left...

    but you will need to build/soldering a little connection/adapter for the Chinch Cable

    Found that for you:
    Thanks for your help on this. I do wonder though have I buggered the line out AMP.... it appears it just unclips from the Stereo so I hope I can just use the left / right outlets without using the Line Out Amp.

    Then maybe get a new separate Amp & run those outputs through it then out to the 4x speakers. I don't need anything very powerful or fancy my ICE needs are basic!
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

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    Hi all- I would like to check if anyone can help to determine what the original factory stereo would have been for a 1992 German delivered 500E?

    My cars head unit was replaced many moons ago & there is no manual. There also is no Tuner Module in the trunk which leads me to think it would not have been fitted with a Becker 1432.

    I think a clue is the head unit should take a regular antenna jack. A Becker Europa maybe? Or a BE 2210 also takes a regular Jack.

    A Blaupunkt unit is also a possibility. Someone out there must have a Euro 500E with the original Stereo - all input appreciated!
    You should be able to find out via datacard. I also could be that the car was delivered without radio, to have the radio retrofitted by the dealer. But there's a code for that too.
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    You can go both ways, with lineout or speaker outlets. Depends what the new AMP got for inlet connections.

    Pionieer GM-D1004 is a very good and very very small build AMP for your project and will connect via lineout or speaker cable!!! Perfect for that job.....
    Price is top too!!
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    You can go both ways, with lineout or speaker outlets. Depends what the new AMP got for inlet connections.

    Pionieer GM-D1004 is a very good and very very small build AMP for your project and will connect via lineout or speaker cable!!! Perfect for that job.....
    Price is top too!!
    Yes that Amp does look good – I shall purchase one! I did get a pair of speakers hooked onto the Becker & it’s fully functional! Sounds really nice too with a Drifters cassette in it. (Unfortunately I do not own a Brady Bunch Soundtrack as previously stated above)

    The Line out Amp is removed – temp connections as per pic.

    IMG_3884.JPG

    Really all I need to hook up is-


    • Top right power plug
    • Antenna + Switchable trigger wire
    • 2x Speaker outlets (Left & Right)


    I have chosen a low tec solution for how I can hook up my phone etc

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    You can go both ways, with lineout or speaker outlets. Depends what the new AMP got for inlet connections.

    Pionieer GM-D1004 is a very good and very very small build AMP for your project and will connect via lineout or speaker cable!!! Perfect for that job.....
    Price is top too!!
    I have that amp in my E 420 connected to a Pioneer DEH-80PRS head unit. Very impressed with this little amp!
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    from reading a while ago, I was sure someone got one hooked up too..

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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Quote Originally Posted by bb1 View Post
    from reading a while ago, I was sure someone got one hooked up too..

    Pic from doolar:
    With that placement, you will have to use non-conductive mounting materials. A felt or rubber mat, and plastic mounting materials. Or you will get a nice humming sound in your sound-system. Don't ask me how I know...
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    I have been thinking about this & I will retain the factory Fader Switch now. (The ASR defeat switch will go into the Snow Chain slot instead since the Snow Chain SW is an utterly useless function IMO)


    So I intend to connect the 2x speaker outputs on the Becker to the factory Fader. Then this becomes 4x speakers wires out from the fader - which will run into the 4 channel Amp (To be placed under the rear seat I think) then finally out to the 4x speakers. All new quality speaker cabling also will replace the original wires.


    So the Left / Right fader control in the Stereo & the front / rear fader switch in the centre console will function correctly as designed.


    And I am fitting new 2 way 4 Inch speakers up front and new 3 Way 5.25 Inch speakers rear. Nothing too fancy just modern good quality speakers to replace the 25 year old originals.
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    This setup will make you happy... and yes, new speaker cables too!

    Or place the AMP where the original AMP where too.. short distance to the Batterie...
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    Thanks BB1. I have ordered the Pioneer Amp so I'll update on how I get on in a couple of weeks
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    BB1 – I got the new spool of Speaker wire. It’s quite alot thicker than ‘standard’ speaker cables.

    IMG_3901.JPG IMG_3902.JPG


    It’s 2.5mm2 – a larger cable is good right? I hope it enhances sound not takes it away......... hoping I havent overshot the mark here

    I intend to renew the stock wiring with this stuff. What I have read online suggests thicker is better (within reason of course!) due to less resistance etc.
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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    2.5mm is about 13 AWG... plenty big!!


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    Re: What Stereo were Euro 500E's fitted with?

    2,5mm² cable is thick, but absolutely no problem, 1,5mm² will be normally enough! Because of a short distance in cars!

    The original cable was little bit thin in my eyes, but for the early 90s top of the line...


    10meter/~33feet of cable will have a "electrical resistance"/loose of power of:

    - 0,75mm²/~18AWG cable: 10,50%
    - 1,5mm²/ ~15AWG cable: 6,25%
    - 2,5mm²/ ~13AWG cable: 3,25%
    - 4mm²/~11AWG cable: 2,00%
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