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    Carlsson C 56 W202

    Fahrzeugbrief of the one-off Carlsson W202 C 56. As show at the IAA Frankfurt 1995.

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    I read 5602 ccm. And here i read it too.

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    Does this mean the Carlsson C 56 engine doesn't have the same bore and stroke, and therefore the same displacement, of the M117 5,6 liter Mercedes engine? Being 5547 ccm out of 96,5 x 94,8 mm bore and stroke.

    And to make it even more interesting. Carlsson also had a C 62. That engine however was also availible in a KE version. Since KE was before LH and ME, the C 56 engine must have been made later than the C 62 engine.

    How odd is that? Since usually displacement grows.

    Anyway, anyone here aware of this 5602 ccm M119 engine? And happens to know the bore and stroke also?

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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    Anyway, anyone here aware of this 5602 ccm M119 engine? No but I sure as HELL want and Think of building such a Sun of a Gun...

    Long ago I read a similar article, a C with a M119, 5.6 thats my guessing.
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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    Perhaps it was this.

    http://www.tuningarchive.ru/scans/0075s.html

    Must have been no coincidence that i read IAA Frankfurt 95.

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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    This one popped up. Donīt know if itīs a genuine Carlsson. I thought the 5.6 was a one-off! Decal 'could be' an indication!

    https://www.drive2.ru/r/mercedes/476873862080889504/

    One engine pic.

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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    Right, Carlsson did some stuff with the M119, wich ended in the C62 '96/97 W210 100x98,8mm giving 6207cc 425ps 620nm, there I wonder
    what crank did they use, billet or offset grinding?
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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    It ended with the 6.2. But it also started with the 6.2. Since i read R129 KE 400 PS/600 Nm here.

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    That 5.6 must have been some sort of project in between? Who will tell? Guys from Carlsson (i contacted Stefan Mueller) couldn't tell me.

    Reason could be since Carlsson is now Carlsson Fahrzeugtechnik. It has become a different company. Only the name is more or less the same. Perhaps even Rolf and Andreas Hartge and Lothar Rau don't belong to Carlsson Fahrzeugtechnik anymore.

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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    Not quite sure what to make of this 036, listed as a 6 litre and with Carlsson wheels and badges...

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11442

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    Re: Carlsson C 56 W202

    Quote Originally Posted by weide1 View Post
    It ended with the 6.2. But it also started with the 6.2. Since i read R129 KE 400 PS/600 Nm here.

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    Here an R129 with a 6,2 liter KE Carlsson engine pops up.

    https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/d...er=1&scopeId=C

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