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    FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £100k (Newbury, UK)

    ADMIN UPDATE 1: The car sold in Japan for $60k USD in January 2013 (see post #31). It is for sale again in UK, minus the AMG Gen2 body kit, at triple the price... first listed at £120k ($193k USD) in April 2013, then reduced to £110k (~$177k USD). See post #32 and #38. Thread title updated with new location and price.

    ADMIN UPDATE 2: Priced reduced from £110k to £100k around Novembe 2013. Thread title updated.



    Genuine E60 Limited, one of 12 produced with code 957+958. EPC datacard attached. Looks like opening bid is 5,480,000 ¥ (approx $75,000 USD).

    VIN = WDB1240361C177228

    Shame someone stuck a big LCD on the dash and changed the console wood. Also, they modified an AMG body kit and installed that too... it has AMG Gen2 front & rear bumpers, and side skirts. What, no ducktail?

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Wow - my dreamcar!
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    E60 AMG Limited on an Auction lot ??!!

    Like the rest of them, this will probably end up in a dusty car park in Dubai after a couple of months for $10 Grant.

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Does not look like a euro car, so how do you come up with the magical number of 12?
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by 2phast View Post
    Does not look like a euro car, so how do you come up with the magical number of 12?
    AFAIK, the official number of genuine E60 Limiteds (with code 957+958 in datacard) is 12. However I am not sure if there is any official documentation proving this. See the forum Wiki at this link, check out the bullet points.

    EPC datacard order code 249 indicates original delivery to Augsburg branch in Germany, then probably exported to Japan where it got modified further. Click here for more info.


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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by 2phast View Post
    Does not look like a euro car, so how do you come up with the magical number of 12?
    Since it's in Japan, as usual, it looks non euro coz of the distasteful LCD, mats and Gen II kit + AMG rims (though passable I guess), but doesn't the Vin with 957 and 958 code tell you that it is originally from Europe??
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    I am just waiting for a translation of the auction sheet and will post what it says. I can tell just by looking at the sheet that there is likely no service history. It is on the block in about 8hrs, and I am almost certain that it will sell. This is the second one this year, the last one sold for over 6 million yen.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    $75K and no service history?! What are you going to do if you find out its clocked ? or engine blows up due to 10 year old oil ?

    It could easily be sold on J-auto or Garage current for that amount.. why flog at an de-registered export auction warehouse.

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    If there is a history they did not list it in the typical way, wont know forsure until the sheet is translated. I can pretty much guarantee it's not clocked. Graded a 4.5B is almost the highest grade you will find for a used car, no dents or dings whatsoever on the car(but it appears as if it was keyed). Cars with rolled back odometers are almost non-existent at auction now as they have implemented much stricter selling procedures and confirm mileage via Shaken(which is still valid on this car). FYI, Garage Current buys most of their stock from these auctions, with the exception of the cars they have on consignment.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Do you really think it may sell for 6M yen? That's ~$77k USD!


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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Do you really think it may sell for 6M yen? That's ~$77k USD!
    I am almost certain, maybe not this week or next, but it will. I have seen a few, even aftermarket 6.0 AMG conversions sell for much more than they should. If this car was listed at Garage Current I would bet it would be $100k plus. A few hours after the auction ends I will know if it sold, and for how much.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Here is a translation of the auction sheet;

    almost like new, Birds I-wood (?) Rb9 type (stereo maybe?), AMG sports muffler and steering wheel, Limited package and black seats covers (you can see from the photo) looks new,record of maintenance (shaken), HID headlights, spare key, HDD navi, tv, rear backup camera, McIntosh head unit, HELIX Ab amp, AMG body kit, rims, muffler. few scratches, little cracks on bumper, driver seat headrest not working. wow, nice car!
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    The US spec/JDM spec climate control is throwing me off here. If it was intended for the european market, it would have the manual dial climate control. Seems to me that this was built for the JDM market.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Rik, I believe the automatic climate control was optional equipment on European-spec models... but it could have been a JDM car perhaps? I'm not sure how to determine that definitively.


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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Rik, I believe the automatic climate control was optional equipment on European-spec models... but it could have been a JDM car perhaps? I'm not sure how to determine that definitively.

    Really? I have never seen a euro car with a auto climate control. Normally the data card shows the intended dealer, thats a good way to determine which country it was intended for.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    EPC datacard order code 249 indicates original delivery to Augsburg branch in Germany, then probably exported to Japan where it got modified further.

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    Rik, I believe the automatic climate control was optional equipment on European-spec models...

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Indeed, there are certainly more than a few non-US cars with the ACC system that all US-model 036s have, but the manual klima is much more common on non-US cars. I've seen the ACC on plenty of 036s, 124s in general, 126s, etc. in Europe.

    Remember that MB loaded cars headed to the US and Japanese markets (not just our 036s but all MBs imported, generally) with tons of options to jack up prices/profits, and to reinforce their brand as a luxury brand among buyers.

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    The car didn't sell, bidding ended at 5.5million.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Thought that was the asking price, no ?

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Bidding started at 5.48 million, usually when the starting bid is that high the car has no reserve, but in this case the seller has a reserve on the car. Whoever bid on it bid softly just to see if there was a reserve, it will likely see more action next week.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Indeed, there are certainly more than a few non-US cars with the ACC system that all US-model 036s have, but the manual klima is much more common on non-US cars. I've seen the ACC on plenty of 036s, 124s in general, 126s, etc. in Europe.

    Remember that MB loaded cars headed to the US and Japanese markets (not just our 036s but all MBs imported, generally) with tons of options to jack up prices/profits, and to reinforce their brand as a luxury brand among buyers.

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    The car is back up today, this time with no starting bid. I am going to guess that the seller also lowered the reserve to somewhere around last weeks starting bid, if that is the case it should sell. I will post the results when I find out.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Shame someone stuck a big LCD on the dash and changed the console wood.
    Black Bird's Eye Maple was OEM for the Limiteds. As was the weird 2-tone interior.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by yvrbenz View Post
    Black Bird's Eye Maple was OEM for the Limiteds. As was the weird 2-tone interior.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by yvrbenz View Post
    Black Bird's Eye Maple was OEM for the Limiteds. As was the weird 2-tone interior.
    Yes, but this car has an aftermarket R129-style wood packge in Bird's Eye Maple. And lots of other modifications, as noted previously...


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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by 2phast View Post
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Yes, but this car has an aftermarket R129-style wood packge in Bird's Eye Maple. And lots of other modifications, as noted previously...

    AH, yes. I see it now (in the larger version of the pic lol) and I agree. The wrap-around wood never really appealed to me either.


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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Rik, I believe the automatic climate control was optional equipment on European-spec models... but it could have been a JDM car perhaps? I'm not sure how to determine that definitively.

    Option 581 on the data card - Automatic Climate Control

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    Car is still making a weekly appearance at auction. The price has slowly been coming down. Opening bid now starts at 4.8million yen.
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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 30kkm (Japan auction)

    The car sold for 5,505,000 yen!! ($60,000 USD!!)


    ADMIN UPDATE: This car is for sale again in UK, minus the AMG Gen2 body kit, for £110k ($168k USD). Click here for the new thread.
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    FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £100k (Newbury, UK)

    UPDATE: Priced reduced from £110k to £100k. Thread title updated.

    I would have sworn there was already a thread on this car, but I can't find it:

    VIN = WDB1240361C177228

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251261545590 <-- Original price £110,000, reduced to £99,950 by Nov-2013.



    Mercedes E60 AMG Limited 1of 12
    Mercedes-Benz E60 AMG Limited. In 1990-1994 Mercedes-Benz cooperated with Porsche and built a high performance version for the W124 E- chasis, it was called the 500E. For the last 500 1994 500E’s built were branded “Limited”. 200 [Brilliant] Silver paint and 300 midnight blue Sapphire Black. AMG walked in Mercedes-Benz Germany’s stable and picked 12 500E “Limited” to be fitted with 6.0L M119 V8 engine. THIS IS ONE OF THE 12.

    The AMG tuned V8 produced 376 bhp at 5,500 rpm 428 lb/ft at 3,750 rpm clocking in 0–62 mph in 5.2 seconds. The results were so favorable that AMG considered building E60 for customers upon special request. The package included the tuned AMG v8, other AMG components, suspension, electronics and the optional 3-piece staggered OZ “monoblock” wheels.

    This car can only be described as a time warp it’s a good as the day it left the showroom, it has to be the most original car of its type available.
    Truly fantastic condition throughout

    Option Codes-

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    £110k but this is truly masterpiece
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    I'm pretty sure that it is this car. I believe that I can see the screen that was attached to the dash dangling on the passenger side as well as the flat hood badge.


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    $168.003 for a Limited? Even with that low milage, the seller is doing some smack for sure.

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    Hmmm. If it is the same car, someone removed the AMG Gen2 body kit. The Japan auction car had the Gen2 kit. The mileage is similar, and both have that funky R129-style console wood modification. The stereo looks similar as well.

    At first I thought the Japan car above might have ended up here... both have the AMG Gen2 kit. But the VIN numbers do not match. The plot thickens...


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    I just ran the VIN and all of the options listed in the eBay description show up on the data card.
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    Interesting. I bet it is the same car, but they swapped the body kit to return it to "stock"... shame about the other modifications though. I emailed the seller and asked for the VIN, no reply yet.

    They paid $60k USD for it, and are trying for ~100% profit margin, eh? BTW, the price is down £10k from a few months ago... it had been £120k (click here).


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    I also emailed the motocars group, but my inquiry was more towards their drug use and how they came up with that price. Funny tidbit from their site - "We are dedicated to driving car prices down forever and guarantee to provide trade prices to the public. Don't pay dealer prices! No other dealer gives as much for the same price."

    Someone pass the crack pipe please...

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    I don't think this is the same car, you might have the VIN's mixed. I saw this ad last month and it was in fact referenced here somewhere.

    Japan Car: http://www.fraysmotors.com/cars/mercedes-e60-amg/

    This Car: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...1of-12/1275514

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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    I think that both cars came out of Japan... but yes, two different cars.

    I'm pretty sure the Japan E60 linked in post #3 is this car for £110k. The odometer matches almost exactly, and the R129 center console / radio matches too. This is a true code 957+958 car. VIN = WDB1240361C177228.

    The one at Frays Motors has lower km's (26kkm, 16kmi), different radio, and a stock center console. This car only has code 958, and was converted to 6.0L after delivery. VIN = WDB1240361C2089130.



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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    2 x E60s in the UK both from Japan previously discussed:

    1 from MOTOCARS 957/958 code ....lets just watch how long it'll sit on their forecourt or till they come down to earth!

    1 from Fraysmotors later converted 958 code only ....ditto! This dealer suddenly caught on JDM cars. Just look at this one : http://www.fraysmotors.com/cars/mercedes-e500/ 1992 for £16k and SLS is shot!
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    Admin - please merge the relevant threads on these cars.
    I know it is a specific thread for the car at "Fries the Motors"
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    VIN has been confirmed. This car is WDB1240361C177228 and it is an original E60 Limited (957+958).

    The car at Fray's Motors is different, and only has code 958.


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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    These guys must be smoking some good stuff down there in Newbury.
    I used to live not that far away from there but I don't remember the air having such an effect on me as to believe a 1995 E500 is worth over 100K sterling.
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    Re: FS: 1995 E60 Limited, Black/Gray, 19kmi, £110k (Newbury, UK)

    The Frays Motors car is in terrible cosmetic condition, its embarrassing!!!

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    E60 in England


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    Re: E60 in England

    Yes, they started with 142.000

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    Re: E60 in England

    I wonder if AMG has ever put their M120 in a W124. I know of a Digitec S124 with the 7.3 Liter engine.
    But is that the only one?

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    Re: E60 in England

    It is featured in this issue of MB-Enthusiast. It is imported from Japan (but is a real germancrafted AMG) and has extremely low miles on it. Love it accept the stripes on the side. Talk about trailerqueen/collecting/museum piece.
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    Re: E60 in England

    Yes, Posted here alreayd: http://www.500eboard.com/forums/show...0k-(Newbury-UK)


    This will be sitting in their yard for a long time. Let's see how long and how much it will eventually shift for.
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    Re: E60 in England

    AMG should buy it back...and put it in their own museum if/when they build one.

    Such a neat car.....it's cool to have the low miles but also not cool not to be driven that much.
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    Re: E60 in England

    A Few years ago the MB museum bought an E500 Limited that was here in Q8. It was bought from a dealership in the Netherlands, spent a year here then the Dutch dealer phoned and bought it back. then it was bought by our friend in Hamburg; from there the MB Museum young classics department bought the car... less than a couple of weeks later and it was sold...for near 57,000.- Euros !

    1994 E500 Limited with 68,000km fully documented with complete MB Dealership maintained service book. Brilliant silver with Black and Red interior. a regretful decision by the MB collector in Q8.

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    Re: E60 in England

    Quote Originally Posted by 195910 View Post
    1994 E500 Limited with 68,000km fully documented with complete MB Dealership maintained service book. Brilliant silver with Black and Red interior. a regretful decision by the MB collector in Q8.
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    Re: E60 in England

    Yup, there she is (and yours is in the background).

    Only two non original things were the Silver painted headlight wipers and the Airbox. But it is very difficult to find a Silver Limited.

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    Re: E60 in England

    Looks like the roof rails were painted silver too, maybe ?

    A Silver Ltd with the red is my dream .036...well, add in the 6 litre block and the dream gets wetter.
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    Re: E60 in England

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post

    A Silver Ltd with the red is my dream .036...well, add in the 6 litre block and the dream gets wetter.
    Your MTM RS6 C5 is not that bad too, i would say. Some understatement. One hell of a car!

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 AMG, Silver/Black, 113kmi (Tucson, AZ, USA)


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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 AMG, Silver/Black, 113kmi (Tucson, AZ, USA)

    Quote Originally Posted by Maui View Post
    Probably need to start a new thread for this one.

    I'm quite keen to get this one into my database. Bing, can you score the VIN for this pup?

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    Re: FS: 1994 E60 AMG, Silver/Black, 113kmi (Tucson, AZ, USA)

    The listing indicates:

    Featured in July edition Mercedes Enthusiast magazine.

    Do we have that article?
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