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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Great Glen! Let us know when you do a longer highway tour without much braking if you can get back to the 22-24 mpg (summer) standard that I was used to with this car - just curious. Winter was more between 20 and 22mpg

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    Well as of today, I have owned this car for 4 years! Hard to believe how fast time goes by. Here are some fun numbers.
    As of the 14th of January, I have:
    - filled the tank 107 times
    - driven 32,506 miles (this includes the incorrect mileage from when the odometer gears were broken)
    - average MPG: 16.6 MPG (this includes the incorrect MPG from when the odometer gears were broken)
    - total gallons of gasoline consumed: 1978.95
    - average price per gallon: $3.22
    - total spent on fuel: $6402.45

    Mileage as of this moment:


    As my daily driver, it continues to run great and has never let me down. With all the rain we've had this past week, I'm reminded why I love MB's so much. Even in bad weather they just feel so safe and confidence inspiring!
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    Hi Glen

    you sound like me now (...I was never let down by her as well! Thanks for keeping her in such fantastic shape! 620k is not far! You can ask the HQ in NJ already to prepare the badge and papers.....

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    inspirational.

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    My tune-up reminder came up so I installed new plugs, distributor caps and rotors. With about 30,000 miles, the plugs looked a bit worn out but the caps and rotors didn't look too bad. Still, the engine does feel snappier with fresh ignition parts!

    Oh, I also installed a new serpentine belt.
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    Today, the high miler crossed 615,000 miles. As I chase down 1 million kilometers (621,371 miles, should arrive late this year) the car continues to run great and makes a wonderful daily driver.

    Mercedes acknowledges 1 million km at 625,000 miles so I won't be getting my grill badge until next spring.
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    From my Fuelly page as of a few days ago :

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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Congrats Glen,

    That's quite an accomplishment.

    "High Mileage" Something us old timers need to think about. Keep it running as long as you can.

    Take Care
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    I'll be seeking a PDR miracle worker when I get home.
    Glen,
    Did you ever get a quote for the PDR?
    Any reputable PRD shops in San Diego?

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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    I got a quote from a guy in Del Mar that was recommended by the shop that painted my car but he didn't seem to want the job. I was trying to connect with a guy that KarlC recommended but our schedules never sync'd up...so, I still haven't had the hail damage repaired.

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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Hit 620,000 this evening! Car is still running great making my daily 40 mile commute as enjoyable as a daily commute can be. Since my last update, I’ve had to replace the driver-side rear window regulator and put some new tires on.

    For tires I settled on Conti DWS06 to replace the old DW tires. So far I think they’re great, easily as good or better than the DW. Anyway...
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Is that a cold idle or hot idle? My oil press is around 1 or even dips slightly below 1 on hot idle.
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    Fully warmed up after a 30 minute drive. Note that it’s a cool night. On hot days it drops down to about 1. Don’t worry as long as it goes to 3 by 1500 to 1800 RPM.
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    5,000 more to go for your 1,000,000km grill badge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kip View Post
    5,000 more to go for your 1,000,000km grill badge.
    Yep, should happen next spring
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    Go Glen!

    My 93' is just turning 240k. Great commuter car.
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    My car is at 213k. I just put in an application for my first badge lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeinTampa View Post
    Is that a cold idle or hot idle? My oil press is around 1 or even dips slightly below 1 on hot idle.

    The sender does get worn out, easy replacement with a 12mm stubby IIRC and don't forget the washer sold separately. Also a good time to review the lower harness and the oil level sender which is known to be a leaker with BBQ O ring. When I replaced mine, it went from yours hot to Glenn's hot.
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    What does it take to "earn" the first badge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocfn View Post
    The sender does get worn out, easy replacement with a 12mm stubby IIRC and don't forget the washer sold separately. Also a good time to review the lower harness and the oil level sender which is known to be a leaker with BBQ O ring. When I replaced mine, it went from yours hot to Glenn's hot.
    Good to know. Appreciate the info. How long is the sender and the o-ring known to last? I know one of the PO's Doug (DW SD) on this forum has done most if not all of these things less than 5 years and maybe 30k miles ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trae View Post
    What does it take to "earn" the first badge?
    155k miles or 250k kilometers.
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    You should be good if so. Much depends on the oil weight used and how hot it is at idle. If she comes right up at 1000 rpm, no issue. The fist bump on the dash could work too, especially if the rpm look off lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocfn View Post
    You should be good if so. Much depends on the oil weight used and how hot it is at idle. If she comes right up at 1000 rpm, no issue. The fist bump on the dash could work too, especially if the rpm look off lol.
    Oil pressure spikes up as soon as I touch the gas.
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    Then you Are good!
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    From this morning
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Bitte return when you have a million kilometers on the clock.

    621 371 miles =
    999 999.691 kilometers
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    Amazing, congrats!

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    Bravo bravo bravo... we need to send this to the M-B museum!

    How about shipping it to europe next summer, for a reunion tour in Germany

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    Congrats Glen,

    That's quite an accomplishment. Time to collect the million kilometer badge.

    It could be a long time before you hit the million mile badge. At 10K average per year it could be 37 to 38 years from now. You'l be an old man like me.

    On second thought take the million kilometer badge.


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    So, is Glen's car the FIRST E500E to make 1,000,000km.?

    Long live our high mileage king!
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    I just came back from a longer Germany stay for family reasons.

    Super Glen, the old Lady did it with your (substantial!) help.

    If you seriously consider shipping to Germany I can help with contacts (I just shipped my W211 Kombi over)

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    She made it to 1Mkm easily and continues to run great. I just put in new engine air filters, replaced the headlight switch, and put in a new windshield wiper insert. Ready for a San Diego winter
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

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    I’m just sitting here thinking about how completely and utterly out of reach that is for me...

    Well done, Glen! All respect massive!

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    Ugh...
    Been losing coolant over the last few weeks. At first it was going down very slowly and I didn't see any tell tale signs under the car. But in the last week, I'm seeing a small puddle on the garage floor within minutes after parking it. Other than the coolant loss, it's been running great and engine temps are normal. So, I finally had time to investigate over the weekend and what I found is that it's dripping from the water pump weep tube.

    So, it looks like I need to replace the water pump. Will be ordering one this week and installing it when time permits...
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    Ugh...
    Been losing coolant over the last few weeks. At first it was going down very slowly and I didn't see any tell tale signs under the car. But in the last week, I'm seeing a small puddle on the garage floor within minutes after parking it. Other than the coolant loss, it's been running great and engine temps are normal. So, I finally had time to investigate over the weekend and what I found is that it's dripping from the water pump weep tube.

    So, it looks like I need to replace the water pump. Will be ordering one this week and installing it when time permits...
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Bummer! But, at least it didn't turn out to be something really unpleasant like head gaskets.

    Are you going to get an OE remanufactured pump, or aftermarket? Also, will you replace the front crank seal while you're in there (easy access) or was that already replaced?


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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Yeah was about to say with that mileage it's just good it's not the head gasket.

    This car is a champ

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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Bummer! But, at least it didn't turn out to be something really unpleasant like head gaskets.

    Are you going to get an OE remanufactured pump, or aftermarket? Also, will you replace the front crank seal while you're in there (easy access) or was that already replaced?

    Yep, counting my blessings.
    I was planning to go with an aftermarket pump from AutohausAZ...they have Grafs for under $80. The front seal isn't leaking as near as I can tell but maybe I should replace it???

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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    I vote for replacing it and lament not doing so 25k ago on the M117. You will be taking so much off to get to it its a no brainer. BTDT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    Yep, counting my blessings.
    I was planning to go with an aftermarket pump from AutohausAZ...they have Grafs for under $80. The front seal isn't leaking as near as I can tell but maybe I should replace it???
    Glen,

    My front crank seal has been leaking for the past couple of years now, and I've finally gotten to the point (and have the space/time) to replace it. I also ordered a Graf water pump for my 119 and plan to replace the pump as part of the front seal replacement. Mine is due to be delivered in the next day or two. I got mine from another vendor, and it was a bit cheaper than AHAZ. Be sure to get the proper gaskets! Also a good time to do the thermostat, if it hasn't been done recently. At ~$40, cheap insurance while you are in there.

    As far as the front crank seal ... your call, and a tough one IMHO. The last thing you want to do is to do the pump, and then six months later have the crank seal start leaking. There are a few special tools that make the job MUCH easier, such as the crank seal press, and the flywheel lock for the 119 (which I ordered for this job) and the fan holder (which I know you have, as you loaned it to me several years back...now I have the factory tool).

    If you plan to do the job soon, I can send you my tools and postpone my own doing of this job until you finish (I have to replace the oil level sender on my 560SEC, which is weeping, as well as the timing chain). If not, I can send you the tools after I'm done with the job.

    Let me know -- I'm happy to help/support you with the crank seal tools. I even ordered a spare M119 front crank seal, which I can include.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Glen,

    My front crank seal has been leaking for the past couple of years now, and I've finally gotten to the point (and have the space/time) to replace it. I also ordered a Graf water pump for my 119 and plan to replace the pump as part of the front seal replacement. Mine is due to be delivered in the next day or two. I got mine from another vendor, and it was a bit cheaper than AHAZ. Be sure to get the proper gaskets! Also a good time to do the thermostat, if it hasn't been done recently. At ~$40, cheap insurance while you are in there.

    As far as the front crank seal ... your call, and a tough one IMHO. The last thing you want to do is to do the pump, and then six months later have the crank seal start leaking. There are a few special tools that make the job MUCH easier, such as the crank seal press, and the flywheel lock for the 119 (which I ordered for this job) and the fan holder (which I know you have, as you loaned it to me several years back...now I have the factory tool).

    If you plan to do the job soon, I can send you my tools and postpone my own doing of this job until you finish (I have to replace the oil level sender on my 560SEC, which is weeping, as well as the timing chain). If not, I can send you the tools after I'm done with the job.

    Let me know -- I'm happy to help/support you with the crank seal tools. I even ordered a spare M119 front crank seal, which I can include.

    Cheers,
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    Thanks Gerry. I plan to start disassembly this weekend. I'll evaluate the crank seal as I get into it and let you know if I need your tools. I replaced the t-stat a few years ago but will install a new one for good measure.

    Side note: mileage is at 623,9xx so just over a 1000 miles to go to quality for the 1 million km badge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    I was planning to go with an aftermarket pump from AutohausAZ...they have Grafs for under $80.
    Glen, MB doesn't appear to offer new pumps anymore (which were $$$!), they only offers remans now. At $207 plus core, I'd seriously consider the OE reman vs aftermarket:
    https://www.mboemparts.com/?p=catalo...=119-200-15-01



    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    The front seal isn't leaking as near as I can tell but maybe I should replace it???
    If it's been replaced recently, I'd leave it alone. Otherwise... definitely replace it. You've already done 90% of the work to access it with the water pump out, the seal replacement is incremental labor at this point. The only special tools needed are the seal installer, flywheel lock, and 400Nm torque wench. The hub puller is a free rental at AutoZone, or ~$25 to buy outright. This thread should have most of the info you need:
    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7501

    On a side note, the M119 flywheel locks have become available again at very reasonable prices, ~$125 delivered from multiple vendors. Search for Baum 116-0140 (link).


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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    I know it takes extra time to do so, BUT, definitely need a "how to" as I can't seem to fix anything on these cars without one.

    So, rock on high mileage king!
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    I have had no issues with the LASO WP I installed in the M117 back in 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocfn View Post
    I have had no issues with the Graf WP I installed in the M117 back in 2013.
    Graf pump has been ordered along with a new t-stat.
    Will evaluate other parts during disassembly.

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    I've had Graf and Laso aftermarket pumps on various engines over the years, and nary a problem. If I remember, the now semi-famous "Stig wagen" has a Laso pump installed. That poor Stig wagen ... it's been prostituted out to more owners in the past four years than it has deserved.

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    So far I’ve been lucky. Old pump is out and I’m starting to clean stuff up. The pulley and dampener came off without a fuss. The hardest part was getting the vertical bolts that hold the alternator bracket to the fan bearing.

    At this point I’m thinking I’ll leave the front seal alone.
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    While putting it back together Saturday afternoon I realized I was missing a bolt. Those of you that have been following along since the beginning may remember the severe oil leak when I got the car.

    The leak was from the front cover being loose, I tightened three bolts along the right side of the front cover and it’s been leak free ever since.

    Well, all this time it was missing one bolt for the fan bearing! I called a few places Saturday afternoon but no one had what I needed. So Sunday morning I went to the junkyard and again, I was lucky. Found a ‘94 SL500 and retrieved the M8 x 1.25 x 150mm bolt pictured below.

    The distributor covers were also in great shape so I picked those up as well. And lastly, the OE fan clutch looked to be newish so I grabbed it too. All in, $36.00 including entrance fee for me and the wife.

    So anyway, it’s all back together and I’ll be driving it to work shortly.

    Here’s a shot when I finished...sorry for not cleaning the covers, I wanted to catch the 2nd half of the Super Bowl...
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    Glen if that fan clutch is from a R129 it may not fit your 500E. I believe the E500E fan clutch is slimmer and chassis specific but could be wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    Glen if that fan clutch is from a R129 it may not fit your 500E. I believe the E500E fan clutch is slimmer and chassis specific but could be wrong...
    Joe is correct, the R129/W140 clutch is thicker and won't fit on a W124. (Or it will have near-zero clearance to the radiator.)

    Glad to hear everything went smoothly, Glen! Have you taken it for a test drive? Any difference in operating temps?


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    Glen,

    What did you think of the quality of the Graf pump and casting? I received my own replacement pump on Saturday and I though it felt pretty high quality in the housing casting, and impeller assembly. My Graf came with all appropriate gaskets in the box, although assuming that it didn't, I had ordered an MB water pump gasket separately (now I have a spare).

    Did you re-use the water pump bolts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Joe is correct, the R129/W140 clutch is thicker and won't fit on a W124.

    Glad to hear everything went smoothly, Glen! Have you taken it for a test drive? Any difference in operating temps?

    I test fit it without the fan blade and it looks like it will clear but would make accessing the front bolt EXTREMELY difficult. Since my ACM clutch is still working, I reinstalled it to make my life a little easier.
    I drove it a bit last night to check for leaks...I forgot to tighten one clamp, oops. No difference in running temp but it was cool last night and this morning on the way to work. So, I guess the new t-stat wasn't really necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Glen,

    What did you think of the quality of the Graf pump and casting? I received my own replacement pump on Saturday and I though it felt pretty high quality in the housing casting, and impeller assembly. My Graf came with all appropriate gaskets in the box, although assuming that it didn't, I had ordered an MB water pump gasket separately (now I have a spare).

    Did you re-use the water pump bolts?
    The Graf pump appears to be high quality, no complaints or issues with installation. It came with new gaskets and t-stat o-ring which I have an extra since the t-stat came with one as well. Yes, I did reuse the bolts after cleaning and anti-seize on the threads.

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    I think replacing the thermostat was a good idea -- absolutely incremental. Congratulations on a job well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    I think replacing the thermostat was a good idea -- absolutely incremental. Congratulations on a job well done!
    HIGHLY recommended to replace the t-stat every 7-10 years, or every other coolant change. Very cheap insurance. Although the typical failure mode is opening early (engine takes forever to reach 80C), they can also stick closed and cause overheating. The only way I'd not replace the t-stat during a water pump job is if the t-stat is very recent (and OE/OEM).


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    HIGHLY recommended to replace the t-stat every 7-10 years, or every other coolant change. Very cheap insurance. Although the typical failure mode is opening early (engine takes forever to reach 80C), they can also stick closed and cause overheating. The only way I'd not replace the t-stat during a water pump job is if the t-stat is very recent (and OE/OEM).

    The t-stat was only a couple years old...same Wahler unit I just installed. But you're right considering the cost, it makes sense.

    Edit, slight correction, it's been 3.6 years and ~40K miles, from my Fuelly notes:
    Installed new Wahler t-stat. The old one was the wrong part, looked to be a standard M104 item. Engine is running much cooler! 6/7/2014, 584183
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    BTW, odo just turned over 624000 miles, didn't get a picture though.

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    My last thermostat in the SEC (same unit as used in the E500E) lasted about 7 years and exactly 60K miles. I didn't notice there was a problem with early opening, in the heat of Texas, but noticed it straightaway here in Maryland with the colder/winter temperatures.

    I agree with Dave - would ALWAYS replace a thermostat when the water pump comes out. My current E500 thermostat (an aftermarket Behr) was replaced in 2015, and only has 9K miles on it, but I'm going to replace it when I do my water pump.

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