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    Today's before the big game project. I've had these new front wheel well liners for a while now but have been too lazy to install them. I know, shame on me for driving around with no liners or belly pan for the last few weeks.

    As you can see, new liners and weather seals.

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    Driver side wheel well:

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    New liner in place:

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    No passenger side pix, but it's pretty much the same
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Glen,

    Looks great! Was this on the Dr.P car or your silver one? Assuming Dr.P.....

    Can you share the part numbers for that complete kit you have in the first photo?

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    Glen, how did you attach the weatherstrip pieces to the liners? The factory stapled them together, but I don't have a stapler quite that powerful. The pieces tend to slip off, at least during my installation last fall. Thanks for the photos, btw!

    Tip for anyone with a nor'east car... squirt some penetrating oil (Kroil, etc) on each of the plastic nuts before you attempt removal, and/or heat them first, or something. The metal studs can snap right off and they're not replaceable without somewhat extreme measures. Never had any issues with my southern/western cars, but be careful out there.


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    Part numbers:
    124-884-15-35, left
    124-884-16-35, right
    107-884-01-98, seal...sold by the meter but you need a bit more than 2 so you have to buy 3

    If your original nylon nuts are ok, you can reuse, otherwise you'll need to acquire some...mine were usable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Glen, how did you attach the weatherstrip pieces to the liners? The factory stapled them together, but I don't have a stapler quite that powerful. The pieces tend to slip off, at least during my installation last fall. Thanks for the photos, btw!

    I didn't use anything. It's a bit of a pain, but once the liners are installed, I can't see how the seals can come off. I think the factory uses staples to make installation easier/faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Glen,

    Looks great! Was this on the Dr.P car or your silver one? Assuming Dr.P.....

    Can you share the part numbers for that complete kit you have in the first photo?

    Thanks
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    Part numbers above. It's not quite complete. There's a small plastic cover on the driver side panel below the charcoal canister. I reused my original. Also, there a several metal clips that retain screws from the bumper and belly pan...I reused my originals.

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    Glen, btw, one of the rubber plugs are missing, see the oval hole in the chassis frame rail. These are popped out by tow truck or transport drivers when strapping the car down, and they're often not replaced. I've had to buy a more than a dozen of these pluggies for my various cars. P/N is 124-997-07-86, $2.70 MSRP, two located up front (vertical), two in the rear (horizontal) near the SLS hard line.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Glen, btw, one of the rubber plugs are missing, see the oval hole in the chassis frame rail. These are popped out by tow truck or transport drivers when strapping the car down, and they're often not replaced. I've had to buy a more than a dozen of these pluggies for my various cars. P/N is 124-997-07-86, $2.70 MSRP, two located up front (vertical), two in the rear (horizontal) near the SLS hard line.
    Thanks Dave. Passenger side is missing too...
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    My wife just sent me this picture...

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    all I can say is, AMAZING !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevester 500E View Post
    all I can say is, AMAZING !
    Thanks Steve. We're on the home stretch to 600,000 miles. I will try to post a picture every 1000 miles until we get there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    My wife just sent me this picture...

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    That's 944,000 in KM. Only 56k left until the big million!
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    Actually a little over 949k. Meaning it's just a tad over 50k km to go.. When the odo reads 621.5k miles I'll send out some bottles of European beer for both Glen and Dr.P

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    Quote Originally Posted by eiriksmil View Post
    Actually a little over 949k. Meaning it's just a tad over 50k km to go.. When the odo reads 621.5k miles I'll send out some bottles of European beer for both Glen and Dr.P
    I'm in !!!

    590000 - super! I propose the 600000 roll-over to be documented as well! (I have a short camera video of the 500k turnover in the middle of the desert....) Great!
    As for the beer : there are standards (like with the E500). As per Gerry it needs to be Weihenstephaner .

    For the mathematically inclined : How many miles in 1 km? The answer is 0.621371192237. So the "European" milestone is reached @ mileage 621371

    It would be absolutely awesome to time the 621k event together with a GTG....just as a proposal....and get some official MB folks (from Irvine) there too

    Glen : Absolutely outstanding job with the renovation of this car, I never would have done that (having neither the patience nor the knowledge nor the time...) - it's a (still very well) driveable museum's piece now!
    Danke !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrP View Post
    As for the beer : there are standards (like with the E500). As per Gerry it needs to be Weihenstephaner .


    Or how about one I took in front of the Casino in Monaco, Dr.P?

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    I love it that Dr.P pops in here from time to time.

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    Mhhhmmm Weizenbier... Hopefully it will be summer here soon.
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    Playing musical wheels this morning. Because I don't drive the silver car that much, the tires have very few miles even though they are several years old. Before they rot away, I figured I would use them on the high miler for a bit...

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    Whoa that looks stellar! No one in 600,000 years would guess the miles on that car.
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    Thanks Justin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Sauce View Post
    Whoa that looks stellar! No one in 600,000 years would guess the miles on that car.
    Yea...just what I said in post #316 above. Looks really great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8899 View Post
    Yea...just what I said in post #316 above. Looks really great!
    Indeed you did, Greg and I think to many folks, it does. I was filling the tank recently and a woman walked up to me and asked, "Is that an E or C?" I said, "E". She then asked, "What year is it?" to which, I replied "1994." She had a quizzical look on her face and walked away...getting into a 211 E-class.
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    Another tick...had to drive around the neighborhood before pulling into the garage to snap this picture

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    Looks like we're driving about 1000 miles per month. Hopefully a little more over summer!
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    30,000 to go.

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    That color looks so so nice in single tone !

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    Did you install some sort of clear bra to keep things nice?
    I've been curious about the 3M spray on DIY solution, but never saw it up close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DW SD View Post
    Did you install some sort of clear bra to keep things nice?
    I've been curious about the 3M spray on DIY solution, but never saw it up close.

    Doug
    I haven't installed anything to protect the paint, in my twisted mind, it's a daily driver, not a garage queen so a few chips aren't going to detract from the whole package. Maybe I should look into the 3M product...I could see using it on the rocker panels in front of the rear wheels as that area really takes a beating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    ...I should look into the 3M product...I could see using it on the rocker panels in front of the rear wheels as that area really takes a beating...
    Yes. Also the lower half of the front bumper, and the headlight wiper/trim panels. These get the most abuse, followed by the leading edges of the hood and fenders around the turn signals. If I ever spring for a paint job, all of the above will get some sort of coating on those areas.


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    The paint looks so great! Yes your mind is twisted.... doesn't look like a daily driver to me. Definitely protect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DW SD View Post
    The paint looks so great! Yes your mind is twisted.... doesn't look like a daily driver to me. Definitely protect it.
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    Glen,

    You have come to far and spent a lot of your time and money to let the front end get all chipped up. You really need to have someone install some 3M ClearBra on at least the lower fascia below the impact strip and on the wiper panels below the headlights. What's a few more $$$ at this point? Unless the wife is ready to kill you.

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    Being April 1, I was going to post that the high miler finally bit the dust in a spectacular catastrophe but since that didn't happen, I'll just give a quick running report
    Several weeks ago, I finally had the time to replace the engine mounts (Lemforder) and trans mount (OE) with the expected great results. The old mounts were dead and completely collapsed. Also replaced the front window rear guides. This fixed a nasty window rattle that occurred with the windows down while closing the doors. That's about it for news. I continue to commute about 250 miles per week in it, averaging about 17 MPG.

    I just realized that I haven't posted any interior pictures yet...mostly because I haven't taken any. I'll remedy that in the coming weeks so you can see what a 600,000 mile interior looks like, stay tuned.

    Current mileage is ~591500.
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    A story about catastrophic failure of the bottom end would have been good. Probably would have gotten GSXR going....

    Congrats on the continuing maintenance. What specific goodness did you notice, after replacing the engine/trans mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    A story about catastrophic failure of the bottom end would have been good. Probably would have gotten GSXR going....

    Congrats on the continuing maintenance. What specific goodness did you notice, after replacing the engine/trans mounts?
    The usual. Vibration could be felt in the chassis as idle, completely gone after the new mounts were installed. Additionally, the old mounts were so bad that the exhaust cross-over pipe was touching the stamped steel cross-brace, this was especially noticeable at speed because you could hear a bit of exhaust drone in the cabin. Again, this was completely eliminated with the new mounts.

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    wow, nice

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    As promised, here are some pictures of the 600k interior. Other than a bit of superficial cleaning, I haven't done anything to revamp the interior yet.

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    Sorry the lighting is so bad.
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    As you can see, it's a survivor and has held up remarkably well given the miles. The obvious issues are the headliner, front seat backs, map pockets and wood issues...I plan to address all of them in time but keep in mind the idea is not to make a concours example. This is a daily driver and my vision is for it to present as a well cared for example while being proud of the miles its covered.
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Amazing. I love checking up on this thread every now-and-then. Always seems to be uplifting posts
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Another thousand miles. Had to exit the freeway on my way to work to take this picture.
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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    Another 1000 miles closer to 600,000. Car is running great and I really don't have anything to report...which I guess is a good thing

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    Re: OWNER - Glen (199)

    This morning's job was to replace the idler arm bushing. New OE bushing is a bit pricey, considering what it is, but it's really the only sensible option available. No pictures but the job went well.

    I'm currently finishing up installing SS brake lines. These particular lines were won by KarlC at last year's SoCal GTG but he graciously donated them to me...thanks Karl!

    I have three lines done, but the old driver side front is refusing to come out so far. Soaking in Kroil at the moment. Here are a couple pix of the completed passenger side.

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    Where are these lines available purchase?
    Any other lines on the .036 that should be replaces with SS?
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    This morning's job was to replace the idler arm bushing. New OE bushing is a bit pricey, considering what it is, but it's really the only sensible option available. No pictures but the job went well.

    I'm currently finishing up installing SS brake lines. These particular lines were won by KarlC at last year's SoCal GTG but he graciously donated them to me...thanks Karl!

    I have three lines done, but the old driver side front is refusing to come out so far. Soaking in Kroil at the moment. Here are a couple pix of the completed passenger side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevester 500E View Post
    Where are these lines available purchase?
    Any other lines on the .036 that should be replaces with SS?
    Steve, these are the WRXtra brake lines available here: http://www.deerfieldprecision.com/ca...products_id=54

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    Success!
    But I had to resort to a somewhat crude tool to get the job done. My Craftsman flare wrench just wasn't getting a good enough bite on the fitting and I didn't want it to round the corners so I resorted to using this:

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    Just need to bleed the brakes and clean up. Here's a picture of the new line in place:

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    Had to snap this picture on the go today.

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    Also, I'm really happy with the SS brake lines. Pedal is firmer and brakes feel more linear now. And the new idler arm bushing cured a bit of wander that developed over the last few thousand miles.
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    I like that tool. Simple but effective. I need to have one in my tool box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    I like that tool. Simple but effective. I need to have one in my tool box.

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    Thanks Drew, it worked great because its like a pipe wrench and gets tighter as you use it but doesn't crush the fastener either.
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    I'm getting close to completing the rear suspension overhaul. I installed new OE camber and lower thrust arm links last weekend. The only original bushings left in the rear are the inner LCA's and they seem fine. Shortly after I got the car, I installed the 120K mile hydrostruts from my silver car, replacing the severely worn originals. Unfortunately, within the last 5000 miles, those developed the tell tale clunk. Soooo, I just ordered new OE hydrostruts and will be installing them shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    I'm getting close to completing the rear suspension overhaul. I installed new OE camber and lower thrust arm links last weekend. The only original bushings left in the rear are the inner LCA's and they seem fine. Shortly after I got the car, I installed the 120K mile hydrostruts from my silver car, replacing the severely worn originals. Unfortunately, within the last 5000 miles, those developed the tell tale clunk. Soooo, I just ordered new OE hydrostruts and will be installing them shortly.
    Nice! How difficult was this job? Did you have to remove the parking brake shoes and backing plates?
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    Greg, for any of the arms in the rear suspension, access to the bolts is the hard part. For the camber and upper forward link, the brake dust shield can make access to the bolts on the wheel carrier a pita. And on the subframe side, the upper forward link is a major pita; lowering the subframe makes access easier. In my cars, I trim the brake rotor shield, giving easy access to the bolts...I know some may not like this but I see no harm and it certainly makes things easier.

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    I've replaced the rear links on multiple cars. Access to certain bolts is a pain, as Glen describes. I've never had to remove the backing plate, or cut it, although cutting holes for bolt access would make things easier. Also, the FSM does not mention removing the backing plate for the torque/camber arms.

    There are some special tools which make the job easier, for example the stubby XZN tool for the new/replacement bolts, shown below.


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    Dave, those XZN wrenches are cool. I can see how they would be much easier than ratchet and XZN socket I've been using. Looks like I need to buy a new tool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    In my cars, I trim the brake rotor shield, giving easy access to the bolts...I know some may not like this but I see no harm and it certainly makes things easier.
    Ok, got it. Thanks. I ask because my car is currently at the shop having the 5 rear links replaced along with the wheel carriers and sway bar (Feind). They had MAJOR issues removing the torque arm and camber arm bolts as there just was NO room for the bolts to slide out, and they did not want to do any trimming. After some difficult conversations with them (and emails with guidance from GSXR (thanks!)) they finally managed to pull on the backing plate to get the needed clearance for the bolts to come out. I think the heat and humidity in the shop wasn't doing my mechanic any favors....and clearly a job way out of my league.
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    The bolts must be removed / installed in a particular order and orientation... several of them only fit one way. I forget details, but yep they are a bugger. The early cars (1992 US model year, possibly some early 1993) are worse as they have smaller dust shields! It's easier on the 1994's.


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    NEEEEED HOW-TO !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500Eboard View Post
    NEEEEED HOW-TO !!!
    Let's all send a PM to Gerry and request that he do this job on his E500 and create a How-To. That guy does awesome writeups.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    That guy does awesome writeups.
    Stunning photography as well!

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    These just arrived from Lionel at MB Gainesville. His price was $360 each, no tax to me in California and free shipping!

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