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    WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    I am looking for an E60 and/or a 190 EVO I.
    I am VERY serious, meaning I'd get on a plane tomorrow for the right car.
    By "right car" I mean good service history, no irreversible modifications, no major accidents, and no repaints - in other words... just a good, honest, no excuses car. with low to mid Kms.

    I will pay a fair price, not looking to "steal" it but I wont get "taken" either. You MAY find someone who will pay more, but I will pay NOW.
    It is for me and my use, not for resale as I am not some very rich used car salesman from the very rich East or West Coast area of the country like some are. I am an enthusiast and have been since 1972 when I got my first car, a 1962 MGA. Most of the cars I own today I bought in the early-mid 80s. The 124s got started in the 2006 era.
    Anyway it's a car that I would probably keep until I die of natural causes (I am 59) or Joanna kills me (she is 50), whichever comes first. Smart money will be on Joanna, but the E320 coupe I bought her went a long way towards keeping the local undertaker away with regards to any business from this household.
    I could say something trite like "it will go to a good home" or I could say something like "I'll pay in cash." You decide which is more important.... BTW, I don't have to ask my bank, my mother or even, shhhhhh, Joanna. When I decide; the deal is done as far as my end is concerned.
    I am not on any of the German forums but I am sure some, many, members are. Pass the word please.
    I prefer to buy direct from an enthusiast but I also prefer world peace. Sometimes we don't always get what we prefer.
    So if you know of any please let me know. I will even pay a "finders fee" for your time.
    The car will be thoroughly inspected by both me and a competent specialist.
    I can buy it today but if it takes 6 months to find the right car, so be it. But my tastes may change and the money is not unlimited. So if I find an 8C Alfa at the right price (unlikely)... no E60 or 190 EVO for now.
    I check Mobile.de on a daily (hourly) basis so I have that venue covered, it's the forums, where I do not speak the language, that I am looking for help.
    Thanks,

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Ron, before you hop on a plane with a suitcase full of cash... get the sellers to send you a dozen or more detailed photos of the undercarriage of any car you're looking at. German cars can have the same issues you'd find in, say, New England. You may find a gem, or you may find a terminal cancer patient that looks REALLY good from the top side.

    Just to clarify: You are specifically looking for an original "code 957" E60 AMG, right? You are NOT interested in "converted" cars, even if the conversion to 6.0L was done by AMG Germany? Because you will likely find that a healthy percentage of "E60" cars are the latter, rather than the former. You'll need to get the VIN of any car in question and check the EPC datacard.

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    My observation is that even fairly well-kept cars in Germany tend to have rust issues. Conscientious owners (and the TUV) ensure that rust issues are taken care of, but generally at some point the rust comes back. So a car from Germany that has been driven in winter, is likely going to have current/repaired rust issues. This makes it IMPERATIVE that a thorough PPI be made. If you locate a car in the Munich area, I know numerous resources that can assist with a quality PPI, saving you some travel time and money. I'm sure others here on the board can help out with contacts in other areas of Germany and Europe.

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Ron,

    I guess this means that the AZ E60 didn't work out. That sucks.

    Your situation reminds me of a similar situation that I went through with my RUF (Porsche 911 Turbo). I won't go through the long story - but I locked on to the car, the deal died at the last minute. And I was DETERMINED to find one and couldn't sleep until I did (there are <100 in the world). Soon thereafter, I "settled" on a Ferrari. Then, guess what? The RUF deal happened. That was 6 years ago and I still have it.

    Good things will happen. And you know that. But you are not alone - I reacted the same way!

    (BTW, I sold the Ferrari soon after I got the RUF. Cool car, but not for me.)

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Ron, before you hop on a plane with a suitcase full of cash... get the sellers to send you a dozen or more detailed photos of the undercarriage of any car you're looking at. German cars can have the same issues you'd find in, say, New England. You may find a gem, or you may find a terminal cancer patient that looks REALLY good from the top side.

    Just to clarify: You are specifically looking for an original "code 957" E60 AMG, right? You are NOT interested in "converted" cars, even if the conversion to 6.0L was done by AMG Germany? Because you will likely find that a healthy percentage of "E60" cars are the latter, rather than the former. You'll need to get the VIN of any car in question and check the EPC datacard.

    Yes, an original 957 Code E60. No converted cars.

    Thanks,

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron500E View Post
    Yes, an original 957 Code E60. No converted cars.

    Thanks,

    Ron
    Might sound obvious but did you try mobile.de ? I saw some ads from time to time where enthusiast were selling EVO I, II or E60 or 500E
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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Ron, is Japan out of the question? http://www.jauto.co.jp/

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Roma_500E View Post
    Might sound obvious but did you try mobile.de ? I saw some ads from time to time where enthusiast were selling EVO I, II or E60 or 500E
    His original post says he checks mobile.de hourly/daily.....

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Hi Ron, PM with details might be able to find one for you. Is it for use in the US or Europe ?

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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by szvook View Post
    Ron, is Japan out of the question? http://www.jauto.co.jp/
    If a JDM is an option then suggest contacting SilverStar.
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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    A lot of Japan cars are conversions (no code 957), and I don't think Ron travels in that direction much...


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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Am I missing something here?
    How do you import a 20 year old car?
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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    Am I missing something here?
    How do you import a 20 year old car?
    He posted details in a different thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron500E View Post
    Dave:
    It must be in Europe, not Japan. My wife, the Polish Princess, has dual (duel...) citizenship. that allows her to bring into the USA her personal car which, for arguments sake, is probably not going to be a Fiat 126. The car does not have to conform to any EPA or NHTSB regulations but must be exported after a year, possibly two.
    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/show...vo-I-or-Evo-II

    Ron, you double-posting / double-dipping again?


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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    Am I missing something here?
    How do you import a 20 year old car?
    We have discussed this numerous times, its not impossible just extremely difficult and cost prohibitive. Basically, a car that costs you 20 grand will end up costing you about 40 grand. So you better have deep pockets, much patience (dealing with the RI) and really, really want the car.
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    Re: WTB: E60 and/or 190 EVO -- in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    He posted details in a different thread:



    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/show...vo-I-or-Evo-II

    Ron, you double-posting / double-dipping again?

    Once the car is on the NHTSA's radar, you can forget about all the "other methods" to keep the car in the country. It WILL either need to be sent out of the country or destroyed.

    The list of available laws governing the importation of vehicles is here.

    http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/

    The EVO already has been certified for importation (less than 500 built, the extra two don't count for some reason). You would have a more difficult time with the E60 though, as you would need to provide documentation providing its "historical significance"
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