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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    SayHey, any chance that you could help me with parts order or check parts availability? Parts seems to be orderable. I tried to send email but I think that it went straight to junkmail. I'm lookin for spare wheel carrier A1248900207 and battery cover
    A1246904030.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    no shipping to usa i think(
    32 days is usually from uae or smth like this
    Shoot. If these are available, I would be interested in buying 2 of them. If someone in Russia could buy them, and I could buy from Russia, that would be fine - I'd pay the double shipping. They are small / light items, shouldn't cost too much to send to USA!


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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Some rare part found for the last few months:
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    It looks great!

    But which parts is in the last image?
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 500AMM View Post
    It looks great!

    But which parts is in the last image?
    rear side and back curtains

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by jnes View Post
    SayHey, any chance that you could help me with parts order or check parts availability? Parts seems to be orderable. I tried to send email but I think that it went straight to junkmail. I'm lookin for spare wheel carrier A1248900207 and battery cover
    A1246904030.
    Thanks!
    I have a used battery cover for sale

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    rear side and back curtains
    Thanks, I realize the parts now. You are really doing a deep parts research, it's great to see how it gathers.

    BTW, I scored a G500 V8 shift knob in Moscow yesterday, finally ending a 3 years hunt.


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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Made a separate instagram account about my merc @w124500e
    everybody welcome��

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Two days ago I was lucky to buy this Brabus shift knob for 5 USD. It is in poor condition, but at restoration office they told me that it will look like new after all. So after restoration i am waiting for this result.

    As for the rest - I am waiting for good weather to take the car to full underneath respray.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Thanks to JC220 - made a fan shroud here in Russia)
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    The shroud looks good! One of 2 in existence now

    What material did you use? 2mm Aluminium?
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    As per PM’s regarding Fan spec – see the pictures attached. Clearance to the passenger side fan is the tightest – the other side has a little more room. Motor depth is 63.5mm and a CFM of 1150 per fan.
    The fans I used were Mishimoto 12 inch slim line. The critical factors are the depth of the fan & CFM it can pull.

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    (Cables are temporary for now – they will be tidied!)


    Although the fans do cool my 500E just fine it’s always nice to get as much air flow as possible. It’s cool here in Ireland most of the time so the fans aren’t under pressure. Not sure what temps you get in Russia but the higher flowing fan the better really. For example – on the tighter side run the 1150 CFM fan above (Or similar / equal) Then on the other side you could run a Race Spec Mishimoto 12 inch fan which can move 1850 CFM. This is also on the side of the Radiator where the hot coolant comes in so it would be effective and make best use of the space available since more depth is available on that side.

    Also – this controller is very good & is what I am using. Fully & easily adjustable. Install instructions are also available in PDF on Mishimoto's website.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    The shroud looks good! One of 2 in existence now

    What material did you use? 2mm Aluminium?
    of 3? i made two of them)
    Yes, 2mm aluminium.
    and one more time - tnaks you for the drawings

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    As per PM’s regarding Fan spec – see the pictures attached. Clearance to the passenger side fan is the tightest – the other side has a little more room. Motor depth is 63.5mm and a CFM of 1150 per fan.
    The fans I used were Mishimoto 12 inch slim line. The critical factors are the depth of the fan & CFM it can pull.

    IMG_2392.JPGIMG_2395.JPG

    (Cables are temporary for now – they will be tidied!)


    Although the fans do cool my 500E just fine it’s always nice to get as much air flow as possible. It’s cool here in Ireland most of the time so the fans aren’t under pressure. Not sure what temps you get in Russia but the higher flowing fan the better really. For example – on the tighter side run the 1150 CFM fan above (Or similar / equal) Then on the other side you could run a Race Spec Mishimoto 12 inch fan which can move 1850 CFM. This is also on the side of the Radiator where the hot coolant comes in so it would be effective and make best use of the space available since more depth is available on that side.

    Also – this controller is very good & is what I am using. Fully & easily adjustable. Install instructions are also available in PDF on Mishimoto's website.
    so we can use one fan of about 9cm width to increase cfm, right?

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    look what have just arrived:
    new 6 pot front set
    still waiting for 4 pot rears and getting ready to order rotors - 380x36 front and 360x26 rear

    Thinking of removing AMG decal and make olschool brembo logo, as i have all brabus parts and amg wont fit)
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    so we can use one fan of about 9cm width to increase cfm, right?
    Correct - up to approx 100mm motor width on the driver's side should be fine. (Clearance will vary car to car depending on condition of motor / gearbox mounts)
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    So finally i manages to take the car to Carblast.ru for work on the engine bay, trunk and bottom.

    Cryo blasting + respray

    This e36 alpina is almost done. e500 is next)
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    I say remove the decal. My PO rebuilt and painted the calipers and sadly clear coated over an AMG/// decal.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    So the body was cryoblasted.
    Some new problems opened but all in all everything is not so bad as it could be)
    New parts came and body work in progress
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Some new parts arrived:

    All parts for new windshield and rear glass
    tandem pump
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Some new stuff arrived:
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    It's impresive how many parts did you purchase! Hope you will finish this project soon and share photos of yours brend new E500

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    So we have finished with metallwork on the body.
    Next week body will be resprayed and coated with all OEM things, includin wax.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Now the underneath of the car is done!
    Everything came out as I expected.

    car is moving to paintshop to be resprayed outside, in the trunk and under the hood.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Sayhey - the work looks superb - well done! Looking forward to seeing more pics as work progresses
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    Sayhey - the work looks superb - well done! Looking forward to seeing more pics as work progresses
    Thank you!
    I will in paintshop till the beginning of June
    then I will take it back to the guys who made work on the bottom to spray wax on the bottom and only then I will mov it back to my garage for final assembly!

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    As I am in UAE now I payed a visit to ths well known 036 garage:
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    Those cats have good taste!!


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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    And last pics from UAE trip

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    Is that Roma_500E's car?
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Alex,

    It would be a good chance to hide those crevices now, which to my understanding has no other mission than indicating the panel joint, which can be seen inside the boot if ever needed...
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 500AMM View Post
    Is that Roma_500E's car?
    Right!

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

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    Alex,

    It would be a good chance to hide those crevices now, which to my understanding has no other mission than indicating the panel joint, which can be seen inside the boot if ever needed...
    I like the original look,
    I thought of that and also about hiding antennae hole also, but decided to go stock look

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    I like the original look,
    I thought of that and also about hiding antennae hole also, but decided to go stock look
    i agree with you .to be honest...that little joint between the back plate and the fender is actually giving a certain "look" i think...though very minor..but it DOES do something to the "lines" back there..

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 500AMM View Post
    Alex,

    It would be a good chance to hide those crevices now, which to my understanding has no other mission than indicating the panel joint, which can be seen inside the boot if ever needed...
    ABSOLUTELY NOT! Any restoration if correctly done, would not hide, with lead, plasic, by any means. Result would be nothing but, cheap look and
    a bad sign of a careless restorer. I would look at it very suspiciously, what is original is original...........and should stay so.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Those have always been the topic of some interesting conversation. Though I don't find them particularly attractive on their own, they have become attractive to me because I see most things after they are processed through my workshop/practical experience filter, so whenever I notice their absence, my first thought is "It's been wrecked, and the people doing the repair work were not knowledgeable or careful enough to know the difference" because that is almost always what it represents. Similarly, when I see incorrect/inappropriate wheels, stance etc. on a vehicle, I "see" how it actually feels, so nothing about it says "upgrade" or "looks good" to me, it automatically looks hideous, because hideous is how it works. That's what has happened to me with those crevices. Their absence now just screams "wrong"
    Putting the fun in dysfunction...

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    The word buttocks comes to mind Klink!
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    Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    I own 3 W124's, 2 are 500E's and I cannot imagine my cars without those beautiful crevices.
    It's a W124 signature.
    It's like cutting off a beautiful tail from a rooster.


    Please don't take it the wrong way, your restoration is going great and everyone has different taste or body works, rims, colors, etc etc
    Good luck, and great work on your car.
    Lot's of success ahead!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxi Driver View Post
    ABSOLUTELY NOT! Any restoration if correctly done, would not hide, with lead, plasic, by any means. Result would be nothing but, cheap look and
    a bad sign of a careless restorer. I would look at it very suspiciously, what is original is original...........and should stay so.
    Wow - a strong desire for an aesthetic detail.
    But I do understand, they are a part of the W124 signature and should be kept on a pristine, original sample like SayHay's car. However, I am twofold dependent on the individual car, so they will be gone on my '92 which is a modified car. But clearly documented with before & after pics.

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

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    When you are lucky AF)
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    I'm definitely Sayin' Hey! when I see those photos.....

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    one 20 inch set is for sale - 2700 USD

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Why not to bare metal?

    You now have layers of red and base paint under the new base paint

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    As my paint master said - oem coating is the best one that can be made, and if it remains without damage it is better to leave it as a base layer.

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    As my paint master said - oem coating is the best one that can be made, and if it remains without damage it is better to leave it as a base layer.
    Exactly- there is no need to bare metal spray any w124 with sound panels. The factory undercoats are high quality. Indeed - I would be wary of any 'Bare Metal' re-finished car because IMO the chances of contamination / future corrosion would be higher (Than original, good primer) unless done very carefully.
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    I am aware of the zinc coating issues, but as far as I know it can be reapplied/re-sprayed. And as some areas are already down to bare metal you would need to apply rust protection to the whole car.
    With the current situation the paint thickness will greatly vary throughout the car, and the new paint (which should last similar to the original) is being sprayed on top of 25 years old paint which may start to chemically/physically deteriorate sooner than the new layer.

    I am not a paint expert of course, its just an observation, please correct me if I am wrong.

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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by 195910 View Post
    I am aware of the zinc coating issues, but as far as I know it can be reapplied/re-sprayed...
    It can be reapplied/re-sprayed... but not to the level of the factory coating, which was a complete dip of the chassis in a bath which electrostatically (??) bonded it to the metal. If possible you don't want to remove the factory coating to expose bare metal, unless it's absolutely necessary.

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    So, the biggest rotor we can put with these amg 6 pot calipers and 19" monoblockV rim is 360mm
    I have planned to put 380mm, but brabus design of inner lip is awful(


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    Oh! 380mm thats MEGA, is that really nessesary, maybe youre going racing, perhaps?
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    Re: Almandin 500E long going restoration.

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    Oh! 380mm thats MEGA, is that really nessesary, maybe youre going racing, perhaps?
    No racing)
    I just want to have all inner space of wheel filled with brake rotor)

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