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    18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    I am looking to mount these non-staggered rims on my 94' E500 with new tires. But before I invest in the tires, I would like to know if these rims would be flush, inset or offset from the fender edges, for both the Front & rear.
    Does anyone know this off the top? Ideally I prefer flush or staggered look. I definitely want to avoid the stock inset look. Does tire choice affect this? I have always had low profile but I want to switch to beefier tires for comfort and long life.

    Any input is greatly appreciated. Pics would be awesome.

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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    They will be slightly inset, but should still look ok. You could use spacers to fill out the fenders more, but I personally am not a fan of spacers.

    Tire size is a function of wheel width. You can use either 245-40-18 or 255-40-18 on this size wheel.

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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    +1

    If you want a flush look, you will need 15mm spacers (20mm would probably fit but be very aggressive) up front and 10mm in back (15mm will look slightly more flush then the front with the 15's but still fit)

    Stay with 245/40's if you max out (20/15) the spacers. 255's should work fine with 15/10.
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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    Thank you! Much appreciated.
    I suppose the non-staggered set-up will help the tires last much longer than the ~8k I get now with the staggered rims?

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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    I'm running 18x9 ET35 with 20mm bolt on spacers in the front, in the back I have 18x9 ET35 with spacers also. It may not look lik eit from some of the photos but my set up is flush with the top of the fender arch




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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    Quote Originally Posted by JSUNDARAM View Post
    Thank you! Much appreciated.
    I suppose the non-staggered set-up will help the tires last much longer than the ~8k I get now with the staggered rims?
    Stagger by itself doesn't affect tire wear that much even though you cannot rotate the tires. If you are only getting 8K miles, you either drive REALLY aggressively or you have an alignment issue...which does affect wider tires more than narrower ones. IOW, a slight misalignment may not be noticeable with stock 225 width tires but that same misalignment can wear 275 width tires dramatically.
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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    Thank you or the pics, very helpful, stunning car!

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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    Quote Originally Posted by JSUNDARAM View Post
    Thank you or the pics, very helpful, stunning car!
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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    I am not an aggressive driver at all, but fast on freeway? Yes! I keep alignment in check every 3K miles (Firestone lifetime package but I don't quite trust 'em) and it is usually only off by very little. After the first couple of times the tires showed premature wear, I tried a whole new set of staggered wheels and high performance tires (all staggered) assuming that that may be the problem, but the problem (total wear at 8-10 K) persisted. I was advised by Firestone to go non-staggered and to stay as close to OEM specs to avoid this.

    I am really looking to have a real 500e or Mercedes expert check out the suspension and other parts to see if that's influencing it. Does anyone have a recommendation in the SF bay area?

    Other than that I am hoping these new wheels and tires will fix he wear issue and tires will last 20-25k miles.

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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    How many miles on your car? Is it lowered? Are both the front and rear tires wearing out quickly? Inside or outside edges? Do you have a printout of your most recent alignment?

    You are right not to trust Firestone and in fact, just about all "lifetime" alignment places are worthless. While they do set toe, which is the most critical for long tire wear, they almost never use the spreader bar to simulate load. While it's possible to compensate and get a decent alignment without the bar, the alignment tech really has to know what they're doing. Finally, if you have worn suspension parts, they may not notice, in which case, the alignment is worthless.
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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    Ditto what Glen said. Need more info on the location of the wear. If it's the inside of the rear tires, I'd replace the rear wheel carrier support joints, and also look into rear camber correction. Any chance you could scan/photograph your alignment printout from the shop and post it here? That will help too.


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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    Love your setup =)
    Quote Originally Posted by KarlC View Post
    I'm running 18x9 ET35 with 20mm bolt on spacers in the front, in the back I have 18x9 ET35 with spacers also. It may not look lik eit from some of the photos but my set up is flush with the top of the fender arch

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    Re: 18x8.5 ET35 Brabus 2-piece (non-staggered)

    KarlC is out of the 500E you see here. He did an outstanding job on this one. It looked really great in person.

    We are all waiting for him to pounce on another one. This was his 3rd or 4th one. I've lost count.
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