:smile:Here are a few photos of me and my 1994 E500.

These photos are courtesy of Allen Stephens and ZorroAMG as well as some of my own photos.

I first was aware of the 500E back in the mid-1990s about the time that MB stopped making them. Around 2000, as an owner of a 300SEL 6.3 and 450SEL 6.9, I got very interested in these cars as well as the AMG Hammer (W124) as a possible acquisition. Due to extreme disenchantment with the M-100 Group in the 2001-2002 time frame, my interest in the E500E was hastened as I resolved to sell both of my M-100 cars and replace them with classic MBs with higher levels of both performance and refinement. To that end, the 560SEC and the 500E fit that bill.

I sold my M-100s in the 2003-2004 time frame, purchasing my 1994 E500 in fall 2003 with around 58K miles on the clock. My good friend and MB mentor Robert Fenton in the San Francisco Bay Area brokered the deal for me; I never met the owner/seller of my car other than hearing that he was "a very wealthy and eccentric individual who lives in Marin County" who did not want to meet me personally. A cash deal was completed and I drove the car from San Francisco to Portland.

The car has received a moderate amount of tweaks and mods, but nothing too tasteless. I have two sets of wheels for the car (18" AMG Monoblock IIs and 18" factory-pattern 8-hole wheels). It has a BergWerks first-gear-start system installed, 100-HP BergWerks nitrous-oxide system, as well as a Walker DynoMax-based custom exhaust, ASR defeat (using factory dash switch & wood), Euro fire extinguisher and warning triangle, Euro headlights, custom iPod mount.

The car has always been garaged and Griot's Garage products are used to care for the car. Best 1/4 mile time on the drag strip was 12.89 seconds (with NOS), with a 14.02 (without NOS). Mechanically, the car has been pretty stellar, needing only the occasional caps and rotors and general maintenance routine. I converted the car to full-synthetic Mobil 1 5W-50 motor oil at the time of purchase. It has truly been a nice ride the whole time I've had it, and I will never tire nor get rid of this car. In fact, my wife loves it so much that I eventually plan to purchase one for her.

Cheers,
Gerry



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Sweet ride, Gerry.

Postby need2speed on Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:53 pm

I see lots of extra goodies. How has your experience with NOS been? Any issues related to ambient temps?

need2speed
500E500 owners motto: "Lead, follow, or better yet, get out of the way."

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Postby gerryvz on Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:14 pm

The bottle has an electrically heated wraparound "bottle blanket" that keeps the bottle at the optimal temperature which IIRC is around 70F for best gas flow & physical characteristics.

If you've ever felt N2O coming out of a bottle you'll notice that it is quite cold, even to the point of freezing. At our E500E owners gathering at Portland International Raceway in February 2008, I removed the bottle from my trunk and opened the valve to let out about a 1/2 tank of "old" (a year old) N2O. As A-Man and Mike Spicer can attest, it let out quite a cloud for a minute or so while the gas evaporated, and at the end the upper half of the bottle and the valve area had a full layer of frost on it.

Ambient temperatures aren't quite as important with nitrous-oxide-based racing as they are with normally aspirated racing, because the injected gas is quite cold (per above) and thus has a "cooling" effect to the air charge going through the intake and into the combustion chambers. However, as the gas is mixing with normal outside air, obviously the cooler/denser the air, the better -- so yes there is some effect.

This is in contrast with normally aspirated temps. The coldest drag-racing days I did at Portland International Raceway were around 35-40 degrees F in late October. I found that in general, as a rule of thumb, each 10-degree decrease in ambient temperature meant a 1/10-second decrease in drag-race times.

So thus translated, summer racing at 80F and late-fall racing at 40F will result in ~4/10 of a second difference in ET, all other things being equal. I'd say that for N2O-based racing, this perhaps would be ~1/10 second difference in ET all things being the same.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby szvook on Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:55 pm

The true sleeper and much more, looks great Gerry!

Steve
1992 Pearl Black 500E (build 6/92)

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Postby J. M. van Swaay on Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:20 pm

Gerry,

Looks like a nice ride.

I see an S/E switch next to the shift lever. Is that part of the first gear start mod? I thought the US spec cars did not have electronic transmissions and therefore did not have the S/E switch.......

J. M. van Swaay

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Postby gerryvz on Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:51 pm

Yes, you are correct. That is a special-order (non-US) part that is part of the FGS modification that switches the system between sport and normal modes (i.e. holds the gear longer before upshifting). I have another small round switch on the console that switches FGS on and off. I believe talbir purchased those for BergWerks in the UK to assemble for the FGS kits.

I will get a similar E/S switch for my 560SEC when I'm there this year.

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby J. M. van Swaay on Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:19 pm

Does it delay the upshift on all shifts or just 2-3?

I recently installed the FGSwitch made by the guys in Ireland. I'm still trying to understand the exact function of the "B" switch. Based on my experimentation, when the "B" switch contacts are made and the selector is in Drive, first gear is engaged when the car is (almost) stopped, and upshift from 1 to 2 occurs based on the normal kickdown profile. Upshift from 2 - 3 is inhibited with the the "B" switch contacts made. If the "B" switch contacts are open, the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts occur per the normal profile. I believe the only output of both the Bergwerks system and the FGSwitch system is the making or breaking of the "B" switch contacts. Both systems use a speed input as the trigger to close or open the contacts. If my understanding is correct, it would be possible for the Bergwerks system to delay only the 2-3 shift.

Anybody have an exact explanation of the "B" switch function?

J. M. van Swaay

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Postby gerryvz on Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:34 pm

J. M. van Swaay wroteoes it delay the upshift on all shifts or just 2-3?



It enables the first gear, and delays the 1-2 upshift ony, actually.

The E/S switch (at least, I have it installed) just toggles between two separate (and adjustable) speed pre-sets to trigger the upshift.

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby J. M. van Swaay on Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:25 am

Thats the part I can't figure out. The FGSswitch is programmable, but I can't notice any difference with the shift point set at 2 mph or 11 mph. With the selector in Drive, the 1-2 upshift occurs based on load only. Can you notice a difference with your Bergwerks setup?

J. M. van Swaay

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Postby 2phast on Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:27 am

J. M. van Swaay wrote:Thats the part I can't figure out. The FGSswitch is programmable, but I can't notice any difference with the shift point set at 2 mph or 11 mph. With the selector in Drive, the 1-2 upshift occurs based on load only. Can you notice a difference with your Bergwerks setup?



There may be something wrong with your FGS or the configuration of it. My FGS is set to upshift from 1st to 2nd around 20 mph or so.

If you set yours to something similar, it would be very obivous, as after your 1st to 2nd shift, your 2nd to 3rd will happen quickly after.

2000 CLK32k & 1993 500E

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Postby michigane500 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

Gerry,

Can you tell me where you purchased the 18" factory look 8 spoke wheels?

Thanks,
Eric

1994 E500, Silver/Black
1991 Porsche 928 S4, White/Cashmere
1997 Porsche 993 Cab, Ocean Blue/Gray

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Postby gerryvz on Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:29 am

I purchased them from the Netherlands. The member here Robin500E brokered the deal for the wheels and shipped them to me. I believe I paid around $1,200 + shipping for the full set.

Robin has been on the lookout for other wheels of this type over the years. They are VERY rare to find here in the States but are much more common in Europe. Perhaps an enquiry to Robin would help with finding some at a reasonable price.

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby maggot on Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:29 am

gerryvz wrote:I purchased them from the Netherlands. The member here Robin500E brokered the deal for the wheels and shipped them to me. I believe I paid around $1,200 + shipping for the full set.

Robin has been on the lookout for other wheels of this type over the years. They are VERY rare to find here in the States but are much more common in Europe. Perhaps an enquiry to Robin would help with finding some at a reasonable price.

Cheers,
Gerry





Wheels are Rial and are also VERY rare in Europe........

maggot

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Postby 195910 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:58 am

One of the 500E owners over here has two sets. but both are pretty missed up !
You can't make a decent set out of both of them. some A-hole who tried to 'fix" them carved off a significant amount of material from the ends. so they some leak, the others have bents/cracks

I think these wheels are not very strong maybe.

regards

195910

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Postby W124 V8 on Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:09 am

Those 8 Spoke 18" Wheels looking very good from which model does they come from ?! I guess W140 ?

W124 V8

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Postby 195910 on Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:27 am

W124 V8 wrote:Those 8 Spoke 18" Wheels looking very good from which model does they come from ?! I guess W140 ?




No. they are not original MB parts. they are "Replikas"

195910

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Postby gerryvz on Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:41 pm

Yes, they are aftermarket wheels but patterned pretty closely on the stock 16" 500E/E500 wheels. M-B only produced these wheels in 15" and 16" sizes, but they were also made on the aftermarket in 17" and 18" sizes. :schater:

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby J. M. van Swaay on Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:19 pm

Is it possible that "Rial" is an Italian Manufacturer?

It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like these wheels have a slightly thicker and less sharp outer lip than the stock MB wheels. I have 16's on my car--I'm pretty sure they are not stock and they are very very similar in appearance to the wheels on Gerry's car. My wheels have a "made in Italy" stamp on the back. I've wondered who the manufacturer might be, perhaps this thread just solved the mystery........

J. M. van Swaay

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Postby gerryvz on Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:58 pm

Rial to my knowledge are German wheels, and my wheels don't have a direct manufacturer stamp/molding on them, but they do say "Made in Germany" on them.

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby jafores on Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:39 pm

Hello Gerry, Great wheels, would love a set for my ride. BTW just wondering if your tires are unidirectional, as the front and rear tread patterns seems to be reversed.
thanks

Jorge
02 G500
97 E50
92 500E
70 300SEL 6.3
63 220SEB Conv.

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Postby gerryvz on Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:02 am

The tires are unidirectional. As far as I know they were installed correctly. I haven't run those specific wheels on the car for about the past 3 years, as I've been doing the AMG Mono IIs, but I'm thinking of changing back over in the next 5-7K miles as my Monos' tires are close to hitting the tread-wear bars and will need to be replaced.

Thanks for the observation though !

Cheers,
Gerry

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Postby Aki on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:26 pm

ET of those replica 8-hole rims? Need any spacers?
I try to find one set. Very rare to find.
1992|199|124.036|500E

User avatar
Aki


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Postby gerryvz on Mon May 11, 2009 9:57 pm

I am cleaning my 18" Rial 8-hole wheels now and will be putting them back on my car very soon. They are all the same size and ET35 ... so no spacers required.

Cheers,
Gerry


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Postby Brodie on Mon May 11, 2009 10:28 pm

gerryvz wrote:I am cleaning my 18" Rial 8-hole wheels now and will be putting them back on my car very soon.




I don't normally get jealous, but....

Brodie