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    I went parts scavenging today for some 124 spares – got some great stuff


    A pair of great condition Sunroof Lift arms from a facelift coupe (Same parts as the saloons), 2x rust free battery trays (One is painted with copper grease btw), a dome light, some relays including the lamp warning module, spare rear lamp clusters & 3x rust free headlamp trims to experiment with. (500E Air mesh mod)


    The best score was a very tired looking steering wheel (Free) with a prefect Squib in it which matches the one in my 500E. The wheel will be junked I only want the rubber grommets & Squib from it. The Squib is almost £200 from MB... ouch. More on the 500E steering wheel ‘refurb’ later.


    Everything for only £20!

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    So in hunting down the SRS warning lamp it was code 3- the Airbag Contact ring (Squib). On removing the 500E steering wheel initially there was alot of grease / dirt on the contact rings which I think might have been the actual problem maybe-

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    Other issues were no rubber grommets to protect the wires, incorrect routing & a blue crimp spade fitted where it shouldn’t have been.

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    Along with the other bolt over tightening problems reported in this thread - I also found that the same git had fitted a bolt in place of one of the hex screws holding the Squib in place. AND overtightened it Thus it also had to be drilled out.

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    I followed Dave’s advice & checked the solder joints within the contact rings by prying them out of the Squib. They ‘looked’ OK but I applied fresh solder anyway & cleaned everything up.

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    I got a spare wheel just for bits & took the rubber grommets out of it. (So also now have another good used Squib as a spare) When testing both the re-soldered Squib and the good used one the re-soldered Squib gave much quicker & consistent 0.00 resistance readings with a millimetre. So I have re-installed the ‘refurbished’ Squib. Along with 4x new M5 x12mm screws, a soldered spade terminal, the wire routing is now correct & rubber grommets installed from the spare wheel. Just waiting to pick up the new SRS contact brush set coming from MB Germany then I’m good to go I think.


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    I picked up a set of new MB mats today for my W211. I find it very strange though that they don’t have a heel pad on the driver’s mat. Never seen that missing before.... the original mats had it......


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    Supposed to be like this;


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    I finally got around to fitting the new SRS harness & putting the steering wheel back on tonight. On comparing the new item with the old there wasn’t a great deal of wear but it was a ‘whilst I’m in there’ type job so I’m glad I fitted the new one anyway.

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    Happily the SRS Warning lamp is now out & no fault codes coming up at all.
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    Spring is drawing ever closer & I have a show planned to attend with the 500E in April. The car has came on great with only a couple of things to address.
    Mainly the super annoying & inconsistent skreak from the front of the motor on cold startup. The car now has a new Waterpump, Tensioner, rebuilt tandem pump, New Alternator & Air Pump delete pulley etc so literally the only item on the belt drive which is not brand new is the Fan Bearing Bracket.

    I priced this before with Genuine Autoparts - £140. However since Genuine Autoparts have disappeared my MB dealer is around £480 for the rebuilt M119 Bearing Bracket. This is the part I am taking about – 119150087080

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    This issue only happened after I did the Fan delete - I do wonder if the noise is because the bearing no longer has a load on it. Otherwise the bearing has zero free play when testing for play (But loads of other work at the same time so not 100% certain – just my gut feeling)– it just seems like it’s dried out somewhat inside.

    For now I will remove the bearing bracket & submerge it fully in WD40 (I bought a gallon drum of it) for about a week then clean & re-fit. I hope this will get some much needed lubrication into the bearings & quieten them at cold start. If anything this will satisfy me that this IS the part causing the noise if it quietens down right after even just for a while– then I won’t feel so bad about shelling out for a rebuilt MB one at circa $600.

    If this fails I would be tempted to pull the drive plate off & presumably the inners of the old bearing out & match a sealed bearing to the sizes. Clamp the housing tight to secure it - then attach a slide hammer to the flange & knock the bearing out. I can’t imagine it’s too hard to put a bearing in it – people can do their own air pumps etc. What do you guys think?

    If I do decide to pull one appart I'll get a used spare first - enquires pending on that.
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    Well I got the fan bracket off. Check out the part number- not matching EPC but this is the original 1992 item.

    I figure if the squeak is coming from the bearings then marinating it in WD40 for 72 hrs ought to quieten it for at least a while. This will confirm the diagnosis for me as I am finding this noise very hard to pinpoint. I hold out hope as this one is very tight & smooth when testing out of the car. We shall see


    BTW- as yet I have been unable to find anyone willing to ship from USA. (I tried Tom etc & all online sites) only £500+ Europe prices. I read this used to be a $60 exchange part- what a rip off now.

    For now I will wait until Satruday & re-fit then decide what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    Well I got the fan bracket off. Check out the part number- not matching EPC but this is the original 1992 item.

    BTW- as yet I have been unable to find anyone willing to ship from USA. (I tried Tom etc & all online sites) only £500+ Europe prices. I read this used to be a $60 exchange part- what a rip off now.
    The casting number is almost always different than the EPC part number, which is for the complete assembly (casting + bearing + shaft + etc = assembly).

    Was Tom unable to ship international, or was his price not competitive...? Have you contacted Speed-Autoteile in Germany for a quote?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    The casting number is almost always different than the EPC part number, which is for the complete assembly (casting + bearing + shaft + etc = assembly).

    Was Tom unable to ship international, or was his price not competitive...? Have you contacted Speed-Autoteile in Germany for a quote?

    This is what Tom said-

    I think you’ll need to buy this locally where you are. Some of the rebuilt items are tricky for us. My cost on this part is higher than dealer retail.

    I did look at speed autoteile and they are also around the £500 mark. I just really wish Genuine Autoparts hadn't shut. £140 to my door with them.

    For now I'm happy to just re-fit on Saturday & see if the noise disappears

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    Got another part today from Germany

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    The boot handle on my 500E was a bit ratty looking so nothing like new Mercedes Chrome. The new rubber seal comes pre fitted also.

    I now dig the E500 look so I’ll be keeping this car as is -in E500 guise
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    Got another part today from Germany

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    The boot handle on my 500E was a bit ratty looking so nothing like new Mercedes Chrome. The new rubber seal comes pre fitted also.

    I now dig the E500 look so I’ll be keeping this car as is -in E500 guise
    What was the price? and do you know the difference between this handle and 1247500293

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    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    What was the price? and do you know the difference between this handle and 1247500293
    I am not sure what the difference is from part number 1247500293, Sorry. But this chrome handle fitted my Euro E500 style 500E. (Car has later version Bonnet & Boot Lid)


    It cost approx £120 from my Mercedes Dealer – had to come from Germany.
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    EPC shows a date break between those two numbers, but the early number doesn't show up on the price list anymore... may have been replaced/superceded by the late number. The break of late Nov-1993 is well into facelift production, which started roughly in June 1993.
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    Well tonight I am happy – because I found a fault in the 500E!

    Not just any fault but the LAST fault on my to do list since I bought this car. The fused bulb warning comes on each & every time the side-lamps or headlamps are switched on - & stays on until the lights are turned off again.
    Tonight I think I have just stumbled across the fault. I decided to start up the 300E-24 & 500E side by side & turn off the garage lights to compare tail-lamps. BUT – look at the difference in License Plate illumination. 500E on right is much duller. There is a fault there! The pic is the bulbs I fitted. (They are correct I think) When pulling both lamps on the 500E & using a circuit tester something strange happens....

    Applying + with the tester to the RH license lamp it lights up brightly. The left one not so much – it very much seems like a short when trying to apply power to the + terminal. The bulb will not alight when connected in. It's almost as if when both License plate bulbs in are place they run in parallel circuit hence the duller operation.

    Happily – with this left license plate bulb removed the warning light goes OFF at last! But obviously I have work to do. I think I did not go deep enough into the car’s trunk chasing the defective wire harness. Now I know where the fault lies I will pull the boot lid loom again & re-make as far as I can reach into the car. And get a circuit diagram to compare what’s going on. I may well decide to re-wire the license plate lamps entirely from source (Fuse box etc)

    This is the single last fault I had to trace in this car so this is somewhat of a milestone after working on it for 100's of hours!



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    I was going to order new rear brake discs & pads for my 500E but noticed that the EPC gives P# 1294230212 up to Ident no: B927760. My car is well under that Vin range so it appears it should have Solid rear rotors....


    I have already discovered this car has the later 036 front brakes fitted. But the rears are vented discs – I presume now the rears were also updated then to larger / newer 036 setup. This is good – but I may need to pull & measure a disc to be sure of what is on there? It would suck to order the wrong discs since just about everything has to be mail ordered for this car!

    I think the vented rear brake discs on it now must be 1294230312
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    Re: OWNER - JC220

    Early 036 have vented rear 278x24.

    Late 036 have vented rear 300x22 (in Europe only).


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    Here are some pics of the setup in this car-

    Switchable Master Cylinder (I think?)
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    Front brakes I am pretty sure are late 036 320mm – quite rare- someone added these in the past
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    And the rears are still unknown but thanks for the info Dave. I shall pull one rear disc first & measure before ordering a new pair.
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    Next job for me is to clean up & paint the ratty looking brake shields / Callipers etc. Going gloss black on the shields & discs – then Graphite Grey for the callipers. .(Don’t like the red much) New discs & pads for the rear will be fitted now also. Despite their current appearance the brakes on this car are very nice – strong & responsive. I see no need to upgrade them. Just a clean, repaint & new stainless hoses. At some point in the future I will add snazzy drilled / grooved rotors but not just yet.



    Since the last posts I did get the Fused Bulb Warning out at last!! I repaired more wiring in the boot & that’s it sorted. I also fitted a brand new Headlamp Switch as the original was flaky on the interior illumination feed. And I fitted new Meyle HD strut mounts until the Silver Project camber plate issue is sorted.


    The 500E is also booked into the painter’s now in 2 weeks time for some paint (Roof + Bonnet and blend on the wings)


    EDIT- On looking at my own photo of the rear brakes the Part Number is visible! 278mm – 1294230212

    Information I found - Current No.: 124423081264 Prior No.: 1244230812, 1294230212, 129423021264
    So I have ordered a pair of 124423081264 Rear Discs.

    Bore Ø [mm]: 15

    Brake Disc Thickness [mm]: 24,0
    Brake Disc Type: Vented
    Centering Diameter [mm]: 67
    Diameter [mm]: 278
    Height [mm]: 55,5
    Inner Diameter [mm]: 164
    Minimum Thickness [mm]: 21,4
    Number of Holes: 5
    Pitch Circle Ø [mm]: 112

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    FYI: The .034 and .036 rear 278mm rotors differ slightly. Both are 278x24 but the hub thickness is different.

    124-423-08-12 is the .034 rear, with ~5mm thick hub
    129-423-02-12 is the .036 rear, with ~7mm thick hub (early Euro, all years USA/Japan)

    The rotors are interchangeable, but the rear wheel will be 2mm further in with the .034 rotor. It appears that MB may no longer sell the .036-specific rear rotor and has replaced it with the .034... I was not aware of this!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    FYI: The .034 and .036 rear 278mm rotors differ slightly. Both are 278x24 but the hub thickness is different.
    It appears that MB may no longer sell the .036-specific rear rotor and has replaced it with the .034... I was not aware of this!

    I am quite sure that this is NOT the case. I would not call them "interchangeable", either. I will look into it early next week.
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    Thanks for the info Dave & Klink- I have not verified this with Mercedes. I can find zero leads on the 129-423-02-12 rotors. I am buying aftermarket discs for the rear just now. The intention is to get MB discs all around & have them custom drilled / groved in the near future. But I don't have the £££ for that just now so it's not a priority.

    I have ordered a new set of Bosch brake shoes & fixings, new Pagid rear discs & pads 124423081264 which will get me this summer's driving sorted!
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    The new pair of rear brake discs (124423081264) arrived today. They fit just fine I test fitted them on without pads & tightening the lug bolts down. The rotor is perfectly centered in the calliper. Dave is correct that the thickness of the outer hub face is slightly thinner but IMO that doesn’t hurt anything. The old discs were toast / rusted thanks to not very many miles being put on this car in the past 10+ years.

    Amazing the brake hoses / parking brake shoes are still original date stamped 1992 items & looked AOK. Indeed the parking brake shoes have zero wear. But I am fitting all new stuff anyway. The brake shields aren’t rusted out for a change. Surface rust but 100% solid so I’ll wirebrush & Hammerite them now.
    Very tempted to go pull the rear subframe etc but I must resist! At least until Autumn again then I'll go nuts

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    Indeed, the .034 rear discs will "work", you simply lose a couple millimeters of wheel offset so to speak.

    I stated in post #618 that I was "quite sure" they had not done this substitution. I was wrong, because at this exact point in time, the Mercedes-Benz "Paragon" parts distribution/management program DOES substitute the 124 08 disc in place of the 129 02 disc, and there are only a couple 129 02 discs available, while there are plenty 124 08 discs, but if for nothing other than the offset issue alone, I consider this is a "bad" substitution. Minimally bad, mind you, but still bad. Obviously, depending on one's possible aftermarket wheel configuration, this may be a complete non-issue, still I'm going to run this up the flagpole and see if anybody salutes it...
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    Re: OWNER - JC220

    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    ... "Paragon" parts distribution/management program DOES substitute the 124 08 disc in place of the 129 02 disc, and there are only a couple 129 02 discs available, while there are plenty 124 08 discs ... still I'm going to run this up the flagpole and see if anybody salutes it...
    Klink, any chance of still getting some of the correct discs with a -S suffix on the order? Looks like $89 MSRP at the moment, I think. How many are left?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Klink, any chance of still getting some of the correct discs with a -S suffix on the order? Looks like $89 MSRP at the moment, I think. How many are left?

    Also if Mercedes have superseded the 036 part number to 034 does that mean once stock is gone - it's gone for good? FYI these 034 discs are £12.60 each in the U.K currently! Textar or Pagid brand not MB
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    This rear disc supply issue could take a little while to sort out. There is obviously some kind of weirdness underway, because they show 435 of the 129-423-02-12 discs in stock in Germany...
    Putting the fun in dysfunction...

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    Work has been continuing on the 500E – rear bumper removed along with a pile of other stuff to allow for more minor rust treatment followed by fresh stonechip & Waxoyl. I discovered possibly why the rear brake discs were so corroded – check out the old rear brake pads which I removed versus the correct new pads I have now....

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    I also got a new Gloria Fire extinguisher from Germany. It doesn’t fit in the MB bracket but that does not bother me since this one brand new costs 80% less than a MB boxed very similar Gloria unit! I will mount it using it’s own supplied bracket & renew in a couple of years again.

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    The Gatorback belt also got here from USA & it was worked wonders – zero belt noise now!

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    There are different MB brackets for 1.0kg and 1.3kg Glorias. If you have the 1.3kr bracket setup (with carpet), I think you can still buy the 1.0kg bucket/bracket and that should work with the unit you purchased...


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    With the rear brakes dismantled it was an opportune time to replace what IMO is the most overlooked part a w124!

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    Both bushings were loose as hell- get them replaced people!

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    Btdt!
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    With the rear brakes dismantled it was an opportune time to replace what IMO is the most overlooked part a w124!
    Nice! Of course you followed Gerry's HOW-TO on that R&R, yea?

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    Nice! Of course you followed Gerry's HOW-TO on that R&R, yea?

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    Not quite!

    I already had the car on jack stands & the rear brakes removed. So I removed the 3x 5mm allens holding the brake backing plates.

    This allowed me to rotate the brake shield for full access to the bolt without bending the shield. Otherwise, only 1x suspension bolt needs undone. The one going through the bush. Then used a jack to lift the hub up & get access to the old bushing. And I had a special tool for it which made R&R of the bush itself quite easy.
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    I did for sure.
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    Another delivery for the 500E

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    When doing the rear brakes I decided to pull the rear bumper & exhaust shield to inspect for rust & then Waxoyl the underbody from the subframe back. (This is a rolling resto so I'm taking on these tasks one area at a time)

    The thing is on a w124 the underseal hides a a lot indeed it can fester rust when moisture creeps behind it- going totally unnoticed. I would say that ALL w124’s have rust somewhere by now. The way I check the underseal is simple- get a grinder with a wire wheel attached & brush it over all junctions & recessed areas. Loose underseal will blow off & reveal the hiding rust.

    So I had 2x main areas to contend with. With rust there is no cure but to cut it out, fully seem weld in fresh steel & galvanise paint / underseal over. So it took me all weekend but I'm very pleased with the results. I have a couple of much smaller areas left still then I'm good to seal the back half of the car really well with waxoyl before I put the bumper back on for good. The rest of the underbody will be done the same in due course. One cill & inner fender has been done already & the other side will be done shortly. If people intend to hang onto their 500E for years to come then you really must pull bumpers, fender & cill covers to seal everything properly.

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    Repair work continues on the 500E. I have stripped pretty much all trim from the subframe back including boot seals, lower windscreen cover, lower driver’s side cladding etc etc. Happily I only had to deal with a couple more spots of Welding & I have inspected every single sq cm of seams internal & external + the underbody coating.


    This is an example of how what looks otherwise 100% AOK before I started with the wire wheel - rust was creeping under the factory underseal totally unseen.

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    I ground off all areas & seams and this was typical of what I found in a few areas. Just surface rust which is easy to treat now. But left untouched this would have developed into real damage. I am doing a full re-coat of the underbody areas in stages (Subframe back at this moment)-


    Grind to bare metal
    3x light brush coats of Galvafriod cold zinc galvanising paint

    Urathane seam sealer to seams / edges
    2x light coats of anti- stonechip coating
    2x coats of Black Waxoyl applied with a shutz applicator gun


    More pictures will follow of that in a couple of days when work is complete


    Rear brake calliper cosmetic refurb has also begun.

    Soften old paint with stripper-

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    Wire wheel it off to clean the callipers back to bare metal before re-finishing & fitting the new Hel stainless lines.

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    Some of the new parts – the other SLS line is to come in this evening. (OMG those SLS lines are super expensive..... but the originals have surface rust. This will not do)

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    Lots more pics top follow in the coming days so stay tooned!

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    Rear brake calliper cosmetic refurb has also begun.

    Soften old paint with stripper-
    JC,


    That stripper on the red paint makes it look like you carved a caliper out of a big raw piece of PRIME RIB!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryA View Post
    That stripper on the red paint makes it look like you carved a caliper out of a big raw piece of PRIME RIB!!


    They look a bit more presentable now

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    The calipers were in really good condition actually - the dust boots etc are all still supple & sealed. There was very little corrosion too. They just needed a clean up & lick of paint. The caliper paint I got is really nice - covers great & has a mettalic effect to it. It's slightly darker / more graphite colour in 'real life'
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    Got the rear brakes fitted & the underside work complete including the final coat of black Waxoyl. I took it right up to the outer edge of the paintwork. So tomorrow it will be on it's wheels again. Then I need to pull the front fender. For Waxoyling before the car goes to the bodyshop on Tuesday

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    JC,

    New rotors and fresh painted calipers always look "SO NICE"

    At this pace, if you keep up all of this quality resto work. You will soon be tooling around in a "LOOKING BRAND NEW 500E!!"
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    JC,

    New rotors and fresh painted calipers always look "SO NICE"

    At this pace, if you keep up all of this quality resto work. You will soon be tooling around in a "LOOKING BRAND NEW 500E!!"
    Thanks Terry! That’s the Plan!

    In daylight this morning the underbody looks like new! I am doing the whole underbody in stages. This is the subframe back done currently-

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    Then next the subframe will be dropped & fully reconditioned with LSD upgrade & 100% new links / bolts, transmission blanket etc but that will be in Autumn. It will be one the best examples out there in a year or two when complete

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    This is the last update for a while as the car will be going soon to the body shop.

    Got the rear heat shield cleaned up. Someone before had over sprayed under seal on it so it looked pants. Cleaned it with scotchpad & thinners then gave it a lick of silver VHT.

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    Fox silencer refitted with new MB mount rings. It's almost too clean to drive now
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    Great thread. I went through just about everything you did here, and trust me its worth the wait. You're getting the best advice on the planet from the boys here for an 036. Now if I could just find as expert a forum for my M120 powered cars, I'd be in good shape.....

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    Are these heatshields still available new?
    Mine are rusted in the mounting points, so I need to place washers to install them

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    Are these heatshields still available new?
    Mine are rusted in the mounting points, so I need to place washers to install them
    Im not sure if they are still available but I know the list price is about 300USD for the rear shield alone. I fitted mine with washers also. In some ways I do like keeping original parts on the car too.
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    A surprise repair was awaiting me today when I pulled the other fender! This looked totally fine with very minor bubbling outside. Since I am getting the roof, hood & both fenders pro re-painted I wanted to be sure it was solid.

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    The other fender was 100% with no rust at all - this one had rust in the usual area when subject to a wire wheel. Someone had filled it with a small amount of fibreglass before – they should be put in front of a firing squad! It took me about 6 hours to very carefully re-fabricate the damaged area but it’s identical to the original with the same gauge steel & fully seam welded inside & out. Another 3am night awaits in order to get each stage of protective coatings on it so I can re-fit tomorrow morning before finally dropping the 500E off at the bodyshop.
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    Very nice work!

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    So the 500E was ready in time & is currently awaiting it’s turn in the booth. The paint on this car is actually very good. But there were a few minor blemishes on the Roof & Bonnet which annoyed me. This will require blending onto the adjoining panels which will include the front fenders now also. (Just as well that I got the repair done above in time!)

    There lots of other work going on that I didn’t really have time to detail until now. One area to check on your w124 is the rear lower windscreen capping trim. Rust can form in there & if it perforates the panel unseen pretty major damage can be done. I removed LOTS of wet muddy silt material from under that trim it was shocking! This is what I found when I removed the trim & boot seal.

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    Very minor surface rust occurring at 3x of the bracket holes. So this area was cleaned – galvanise painted & overcoated with 2x coats of black enamel to seal it well. This work also included re- satin blacking the areas under the boot lid seal for added protection. Then I used blobs of urethane seam sealer when re-pop riveting the brackets back on to prevent re-occurrence.

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    One bumper bracket was replaced – the original must have evaded quality control in 1992 – it was practically gone – and the other side was 100%. It appeared to have missed plating. New genuine MB bracket fitted.

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    All rear bumper stainless trim were taken off, machine polished & re-fitted before re-fitting the bumper. I also pulled the window trims some minor surface rust to the inside of one A pillar. This was cleaned with a dremel fitted with a micro wire wheel and epoxy primed prior to the car heading to the paint shop. Yes – I overmask everything!!

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    The painter is lapping his new paint right to the windshield as per my request. All areas under the trims will be sprayed with cavity wax before I re-fit the trim when the car comes back. The inner fender well was perfect on the RH side so areas accessible whilst the fender was off were waxolyed – including removing the little bottles & doing behind there. And the inside of the repaired fender itself. (After 2 coats Gavlafroid, seam sealer & Anti Stone Chip coating)

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    I have now inspected, repaired, cleaned & treated-

    · Both cills – including all 4 jacking points & cleaning the inside of the plastic skirts of dirt
    · Fresh waxoyl injected inside entire length of both cills
    · Behind both the front & rear bumpers
    · The inside of both front fenders
    · The inner fenderwells to both front arches
    · Both rear arches
    · Rear screen, trim cover & boot seal area
    · Battery tray and all recesses within the boot (Trunk!) This will be completely re-painted inside soon.

    So really – that’s it in terms of rust repairs – this car is now sound. I’ve stuck my head where no E500E owner ever should have to - in the quest for peace of mind! The car has already been on a lift several times and the floorpans / above the subframe is good but that will be re-done soon also to complete the Waxoyling.

    It’s gone as of yesterday but the next time I see the 500E it will be wearing a new coat – should be within a week all being well
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    All this work is really next-level work man, bravo!!!!!
    Now, I can understand you waiting to address the rust on the brakes/shock towers ---- but the hood spring?

    C'mon now ---- you gotta bring your A game!!!

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    All this work is really next-level work man, bravo!!!!!
    Now, I can understand you waiting to address the rust on the brakes/shock towers ---- but the hood spring?

    C'mon now ---- you gotta bring your A game!!!

    That was just a test to see if anyone was still paying attention! Tut tut no one commented on the original petrified overflow hose
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    On this day last year I took a flight over to England & drove my new to me 500E home. This was the first of many stops for ‘gas!’

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    The car has came a long way from the condition it was in when I bought it. It’s been an expensive but enjoyable first year of ownership – and thanks to the help on this board I’ve learned alot about the 500E. It’s a very different animal than any other w124 IMO in terms of complexity, cost of parts / repairs but also enjoyment.

    What follows is a list of the work done to date which I had prepared for the car to be valued. (For insurance renewal) It is not yet fully complete nor exhaustive but gives a flavour of what has been done to this 500E in the past year.


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    New custom made carpets to match original Mercedes items (NLA from Mercedes)
    New Genuine Mercedes AMG Stainless Pedal covers
    Speedometer conversion dial fitted for MPH / NI MOT testing
    Leather cleaned & conditioned
    Replacement rear Parcel shelf (re-covered in Black Alcantara)
    B Pillar covers re-covered in Black Alcantara
    Front headlining trim panel replaced
    All new dash illumination bulbs
    Replacement Sony Stereo (USB) with remote control
    Replacement power seat adjustment switches – both front seats
    New Gloria 1kg Fire Extinguisher – seat mounted as factory
    New replacement Headlamp Switch
    Steering wheel contact ring repaired & SRS brush set replaced with new Mercedes part
    Driver’s seat power headrest adjustment repaired
    Replacement wiring loom to boot lid
    Mercedes Stainless Steel upgrade cill plates
    Upgrade walnut shift knob
    New Blower motor fan motor
    A/C system re-gassed & professionally serviced (Fully functional)
    All new German Copper / Ceramic fuses fitted
    Duo heater valve stripped & re-built
    Sunroof mechanism was stripped & rebuilt with all new Mercedes felt pads + Glietpaste.

    100% of all interior electrics fully functional;

    • Electric Sunroof
    • Air Conditioning / Climate Control
    • Electric adjustable seats
    • Heated seats
    • Rear screen de-mister
    • Electric power adjustable mirrors
    • Cruise Control
    • Electric rear blind
    • Electric windows front & rear
    • Electric rear headrests



    Security-
    Toad Thatcham Category 1 Alarm & dual Immobiliser installed
    Central locking serviced & repaired – 100% functional by key & remote fob

    Exterior-
    New pair of Genuine Mercedes E500 UK Specification headlamps + adjust aim
    The Genuine BBS CH 18 Inch alloy wheels were professionally refurbished & new Genuine BBS centre caps fitted. 20x new wheel bolts.
    New Genuine Mercedes Chrome Grill & insert

    New Genuine Mercedes rear boot chrome handle

    4x New Y Rated Tyres fitted
    Original un-used spare wheel, jack, spare fuses & tool kit in boot
    New rear brake discs, parking brake shoes & Pads
    All new Hel Stainless Steel braided Brake Hoses
    Front brakes are upgraded 320mm E500 specification
    Original Catalysts removed, cleaned & protected with new VHT paint before re-fitting
    Exhaust downpipes wrapped with Titanium insulation bandage
    New Fox Germany Stainless Steel replacement Cat back exhaust system (Original Catalysts retained unaltered)
    All new exhaust hangers, seals & bolts
    New Hirschmann power antenna & Mercedes grommets
    New replacement Bosch twin horns
    New Chrome Genuine Mercedes boot lid handle
    New Genuine Mercedes E500 badge
    Headlamp wipers re-painted & fully functional
    New front corner indicator units
    All new Osram original quality exterior bulbs fitted – OE specification
    Later E500 facelift style boot lid & bonnet fitted
    New numberplates & frames front & rear
    All paintwork professionally colour sanded & buffed July 2016
    Bonnet, front fenders & Roof Professionally re-painted (Existing stone chips) March 2017


    Mechanical-
    New Genuine Mercedes Engine upper Wiring Harness
    New Genuine Mercedes Engine lower Wiring Harness
    New Genuine Mercedes Radiator Cap
    New Genuine Mercedes diagnostic socket housing + pins
    New Genuine Mercedes Coolant hoses & clamps
    New Genuine Mercedes Thermostat, housing & Hepu waterpump + sundries
    New Genuine Mercedes Oil Pickup tube (Updated / revised part)
    New Genuine Mercedes Oil check valve (Updated / revised part)
    New Genuine Mercedes Air pump delete pulley
    New Genuine Mercedes Cam cover gaskets (x2) + new crush washers
    New Genuine Mercedes Spark Plugs (x8)
    New Genuine Mercedes sump gasket & Oil filter housing seals
    New Genuine Mercedes Oil Level Sender O-Rings
    New Genuine Mercedes Oil strainer screen
    New Genuine Mercedes Power Steering S Hose, clamps + heat shield tubing
    New Genuine Mercedes upper Timing chain slide rails (x2)
    New Genuine Mercedes Oil Filter housing steel seal washers
    New Genuine Mercedes Air intake hoses (x2)
    New Genuine Mercedes Crankshaft Oil Seal
    New Genuine Mercedes shift linkage bushings installed
    New Genuine Mercedes brake reservoir seals (x2)
    New Bosch 02 Sensor
    New Genuine Walbro GSL392 Fuel Pump + new Fuel hoses.
    New Bosch Distributer Caps (x2)
    New Genuine Mercedes suppressor O Ring seals (x2)
    New Bosch Rotor Arms (x2)
    New Bremi Ignition leads set (8x leads + 2 King leads)
    New genuine INA belt tensioner & pulley
    New 150Amp Alternator
    New A/C push fans (x2)
    New Mishimoto 12 Inch electric cooling fans (x2)
    New Mishimoto adjustable cooling fan controller + temp probe
    Recent replacement 900Amp Battery
    LH Module Eprom Chip upgraded
    Camshaft magnets disassembled & re-sealed (x2)
    Tandem Pump rebuilt with Genuine Mercedes seal kit
    Replacement Base Module
    All engine bay bolts, brackets & pulleys removed & professionally re zinc-plated
    Throttle linkage lubricated & Bowden cable adjusted
    Recent Nissens replacement radiator
    EZL ignition module removed & thermal Heat Sink paste renewed

    Suspension-
    New Genuine Mercedes inner + outer front ARB Bushes (x4)
    New Wiechers Germany Strut brace
    New replacement spring perch pads front & rear (x4)
    New Genuine Corteco Germany Suspension Spheres (x2) + sundries
    New Lemforder rear outer lower LCA bushes (x2)
    New Meyle HD front shock mounts (x2)
    SLS pump rebuilt + system flushed with new fluid
    New Genuine Mercedes SLS reservoir Filter + Dipstick

    This 500E was fitted with Genuine AMG E60 Suspension at some point prior to me purchasing the car-
    HWA-124-320-15-30 - AMG E60 front strut (x2)
    HWA-124-320-03-13 - AMG E60 rear SLS hydroleg (x2)
    HWA 124 321 04 04 – AMG E60 Front Springs (x2)
    HWA 124 324 04 04 – AMG E60 Rear Springs (x2)
    These E60 AMG parts are very rare & no longer available from Mercedes. Assuming they were still available to purchase the price to replace would be £5k+

    General Servicing-
    New Genuine Mercedes transmission Filter, Pan gasket + sundries
    Transmission fluid service with Fuchs TITAN ATF 4000 Multifunctional Automatic Transmission Fluid
    New Genuine Mercedes Oil filter - Shell Helix HX7 10W-40 Synthetic Technology Oil
    Coolant drain down & re-fill with 50/50 mix of Comma G-05 Coolant + Distilled Water
    New Mann PS Filter + Flush / refill with Fuchs Titan PSF.
    Brake fluid drained, flushed, re-filled & bled with ATE Fluid.
    New K&N direct replacement panel Air Filters (x2)
    New Mahle Fuel Filter
    Final Drive oil drained & re-filled with Fuchs TITAN Gear Hyp 90 Hypoid Gear Oil GL5 80w-90
    New Goodyear Gatorback 8PK2465 Serpentine belt
    SLS LHM fluid flush, new filter & refill


    (A couple of the items were already done by the PO – but listed for the Insurance company. Such as the facelift update & Chrome cill covers etc) I have alot more work planned this year also! Mostly underneath the car at this point.

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    1992 w124 500E Rolling Restoration - ongoing
    1995 w202 C36 AMG The donor for the w124 E36
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    Well (Eventually) my 500E was ready to collect from the bodyshop today. The Roof, fenders, bonnet & some other trim pieces were sprayed. The finish of the new paint is very good indeed – it looks like factory paint! The repaired Fender looks 100% flawless Some pics as it came home (before I take into polishing & waxing it later)

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    There was a perhaps predictable slight mismatch in the new paint vs the previous respray. The paint was custom tinted but I can still see the slight difference at certain angles / light. (Albeit I am one fussy B!) So it’s decided that I’ll be getting the rest of the car a full doors off Pro respray this autumn. This will return the whole car – including the door jambs etc to factory fresh condition. A new 500E rear screen will be fitted at the same time since the original is showing signs of delaminating.

    The new Wiechers strut brace looks WAY better in 199 rather than the ‘look at me’ Red it came in.

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    As it turned out the paint mis match appears to have been because the bodyshop didn’t buff the new paint enough. This pic shows an example of when I did the first brief pass with Meguires compound by hand only. (Before on Right)

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    So I’m about 9 hours into a ‘Mega exterior detail’ which will be complete after about another 8 – 10 hours! If the weather holds up later I’ll post all around pics of the 500E.
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    Before re-fitting the screen trims I painted 2x coats of Dinitrol Wax into the hidden areas - this should keep this area rust free for many years

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    Then got it outside for some photos of how it looks now. Engine bay & Interior detail next in a few days. I'm pretty happy with the car - still needs some new window rubber trims etc but it's getting there. Front turn signal lenses not staying - jury's still out on the rear plate holder too

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    I placed an order for more stuff from MB. One thing I can't quite figure out is does a 500E have a gearbox undertray / splash shield? Or just the one engine undertray PN 1245242730?

    That's one of the items I ordered new, along with both front 500E arch liners since the originals are cracked & bits missing. Engine tray is totally gone hence I'm not sure what should be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    I placed an order for more stuff from MB. One thing I can't quite figure out is does a 500E have a gearbox undertray / splash shield? Or just the one engine undertray PN 1245242730?
    There is only a single, large plastic panel below the engine. There is not a separate panel below the transmission.


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    Parts delivery!

    The other SLS hose turned up - this is a new pair. (circa $350 USD for a pair )

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    New boot carpet

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    New under bonnet insulation quilt

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    New Engine undertray (+ New hardware)

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    Both new front wheel arch liners (+ New Hardware)

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    Spare fuse kits + decal

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    And I also got custom mats made in france for my 300E-24;

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    New boot carpet

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    Joe, does your new boot carpet have the thick (~10mm) padding glued underneath like the original, or is it just the bare carpet?

    I bought one a year or two ago and it was just the carpet, without the thick pad underneath. I was never able to find a p/n for the pad.


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    BTW - front wheel arch liners can be fun to replace. The old rubber edging is stapled on and doesn't like to transfer to the new ones. And, the fitment of the new ones was just a wee bit off compared to the old, the one time I shelled out for new liners. CUrious to hear how your install goes!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Joe, does your new boot carpet have the thick (~10mm) padding glued underneath like the original, or is it just the bare carpet?

    I bought one a year or two ago and it was just the carpet, without the thick pad underneath. I was never able to find a p/n for the pad.

    Hmmmm it appears to be bare carpet Dave. Although it feels heavier / thicker than the original carpet does.

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    Sorry the light in my living room aint great. (That's right almost every room in my house has 500E parts scattered around. I must remove them this weekend!)

    Do you happen to have a picture of the foam pad that is missing? There is a thick pad in the boot of my 500E but it is bonded into the boot floor.
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    Do you happen to have a picture of the foam pad that is missing? There is a thick pad in the boot of my 500E but it is bonded into the boot floor.
    I don't have a photo but I'll see if I can get one. All of my 036's have the thick pad. The pad is glued under the main carpet only, it does NOT extend over the battery lid.

    BTW - my memory was off, per my notes last year it's about 4mm thick. I'll verify when I get pics!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    BTW - front wheel arch liners can be fun to replace. The old rubber edging is stapled on and doesn't like to transfer to the new ones. And, the fitment of the new ones was just a wee bit off compared to the old, the one time I shelled out for new liners. CUrious to hear how your install goes!

    The original liners had chunks missing but still the good rubber seals. I will be fitting the new ones in a couple of days so I'll update how that goes! It looks like they also attach / overlap to the engine undertray. The tray was AWAL so I'll need to test fit how these 3 peices fit together
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