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036
08-11-2011, 04:39 AM
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Jelmer
08-11-2011, 09:48 AM
The ultimate car to go shopping in :D

gerryvz
08-11-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm sure -arnt- will have something to say on this topic .....

;-)

195910
08-11-2011, 10:48 AM
Perfect! any performance figures and weight values?

036
08-12-2011, 08:05 AM
any performance figures and weight values?
No idea about weight, engine- brand new stock, just runned 10.000 km since replacement ( has nothing to do with Artz, new owner´s decision)
Breaks from stock SL600 with Mercedes permition =)
Was able to make "just" this pic.

PS Günter Artz built this Tee ´cause he wishes to take his big dog in a 500. It´s not a joke.

036
08-12-2011, 08:24 AM
More pics.

195910
08-12-2011, 01:23 PM
PS Günter Artz built this Tee ´cause he wishes to take his big dog in a 500. It´s not a joke.

That's one lucky dog !

036
08-12-2011, 02:27 PM
That's one lucky dog !
Sure =)
Second car was built on request for a friend. "Got lost" in Holland 2002.
Pictured exemplar- one of the best and very clean swaps i´ve ever saw. Just beautiful. And general condition of the car says it´s in a veeeery good hands.

PS Believe me, chaps, it was not easy to find and catch this car.

Jelmer
08-12-2011, 03:06 PM
That attachment says they needed 318 hours at 78DM, so that's about 30€/hour, not bad. How they managed to spray paint it for 900€ is beyond me, and why 2 doors, one trunk lid, a "dustcatcher"?? and tank only cost ~800€ is unbelievable for me... Or did I just translate that wrong?

And what about being lost in Holland? Any more details?

036
08-12-2011, 03:24 PM
That attachment says they needed 318 hours at 78DM, so that's about 30€/hour, not bad. How they managed to spray paint it for 900€ is beyond me, and why 2 doors, one trunk lid, a "dustcatcher"?? and tank only cost ~800€ is unbelievable for me... Or did I just translate that wrong?

And what about being lost in Holland? Any more details?

Not quite wright.
Teillackierung- part painting- i guess "just" new bottom and fitted into original paint.
78 DM = 39 Euro.

Neuwertiger Ersatzteile- means like new. So could be used parts too.
You also read- "Original Mercedes Esratzteile- 15,167,14 DM"

About second car- i have no more infomation, but i know who has.

ceed09
08-13-2011, 11:25 AM
Is this an original 500E with the wagon roof grafted into the sedan?

036
08-13-2011, 12:32 PM
Is this an original 500E with the wagon roof grafted into the sedan?
Yes. New 500E from 1992, directly swapped to wagon ( in 1993).
Wagon ruf, doors, trunk lid, bumper, lights etc.
The only thing i would change to get to perfection- letters used in a trunk sign- they should be from Mopf1....

036
08-15-2011, 09:18 AM
Battery.

500AMM
08-23-2011, 04:02 AM
I'm sure -arnt- will have something to say on this topic .....

;-)
You're right, Gerry. :-)
I've had one of the two 500TEs we have here in Norway, that was in fact my very first 124036 (Oct.2006-May2007). That car was actually a regular stationwagon converted with ’92 500E parts. So I doubt it had the additional reinforcement on the underbody chassis - such as tighter spot welding and reinforced members in the rear frame. On this car they replaced the entire cardan column and panels in the engine bay to make room for the driveline and cats. I revealed a horrible rust attack in the floor panels around the cardan column, so I gave up the repair and sold it when I came over the Limited. It is now repaired and road going again. It’s in 744 silver (pics enclosed).

The other 500TE in Norway is an E500 converted to stationwagon. They took the rear compartment from a stationwagon (cut under the rear seats), along with the roof as one part - and laid it over the E500 main body - more like a "visor cap". So this car has more of a 124036 in it, but still not the reinforced members in the rear frame. One reason for doing it this way was to avoid the high tax on big engine cars here in Norway. This was in fact a repair of a condemned regular stationwagon by replacing the front section, and at the same time upgrading to a bigger engine. Simple thinking because upgrades on 10 years old cars don't require additional tax in Norway! This car is fully equipped with el.st.column, memory seats etc.. and is very good looking in a dark color.

As for 500E/E500 stationwagon body upgrades. The wider rear fenders on a 124036 compared to a regular W124 starts just at the rear corner from the tail lights. If you look closely you'll seldom see the rear fenders fully replaced on stationwagon upgrades, only the wider wheel arches. Replacing the entire rear fender is a much more comprehensive job, simply because it won't fit with the other stationwagon panels. Another detail is the rear bumper. To make a proper look it has to be a combo, where the upper part of the center section from the stationwagon bumper is inserted into a 500 bumper. This is a tricky job, so very often is a regular TE bumper used with stretched corners to mate the wheel arches, probably with the 500 chrome lists. I’ve seen one 220TE here in Norway where all that mods are done, and it gives a significant better look.

This 500TE from Artz looks to be a real rebuilt 500E, where only the necessary chassis panels are replaced to make it as a stationwagon, thats nice. Over the years I've seen a couple of 500TEs for sale in Germany, and at least one of them was rebuilt this way. The 500 rear seat are normally left out to maintain the rear seat folding application. Without being 100% sure, I think the back rest on the 500 rear seats are a bit different, so they don’t fit properly inside a stationwagon body (?). On the silver 500TE they were moved about 10-12 mm forward. They've also solved the rear bumper case by using an AMG stationwagon bumper, a smart solution IMO.

A 500TE is a very good looking stationwagon, believe me!

Cheers
-arnt-

195910
08-23-2011, 04:56 AM
Its the car that should have existed from factory. I think the W124T is the best looking station wagon ever. I remember the first one I was in. 1993 E320T Impala Brown/Leather beige, it was 4 years old and just imported to Q8...So cool at the time.

sheward
08-23-2011, 08:48 AM
I agree with you, 195910. This puts all other wagons to shame.

Arnt. Very interesting insight into these conversions. Much more work than one would think at first sight. I would REALLY like to own one.

Thanks to all for posting.

drew

M104-AMG
02-20-2014, 10:44 PM
I got a letter from a gentleman who took a 400E and "visor capped" spliced a wagon. Attached are scans of the pictures he sent.

Unfortunately, I lost his contact info during a move.

Enjoy!

:-) neil

carreraboy911
05-05-2014, 09:44 PM
we built e30 m3 touring (station wagon) so one day we will build 500e estate, that has been on my mind lately ;)