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036
01-06-2012, 04:36 AM
22 years in one hand, last 14 years without move. 79 Tkm. All original. Not for sale.

mbforever
01-06-2012, 07:36 AM
Wow! Nice! Is it a 5.0slc?
I have myself a 1979 5.0 slc in silver.

gerryvz
01-06-2012, 07:46 AM
But...But...But it's an SLC....and I say this as an R107 owner. nice car though. Interesting that it has the higher-end burlwood interior. Not typical for these cars.

MDA
01-06-2012, 08:58 AM
Unfortunate color. 14 years unmoved... really? How do you prepare a car for that without it requiring a major restoration to get it back to running condition again?

I don't follow these cars so I don't know a thing about them. Is the fact that it's an SLC bad? Aside from the fixed roof, I've always assumed they weren't much different from the two-seat 107 roadsters.

gerryvz
01-06-2012, 09:19 AM
They are very similar to the roadsters but the design leaves something to be desired in many circles (B-pillar and windows). The SLC 5.0 cars are interesting and collectible, though.

MB did the SLCs as a replacement for the W111/112 coupes, but decided not to make a coupe out of the W116 chassis, rather going with the 107 as a basis. They realized the error of their ways and went back to a full-size coupe with the C126, rightfully so. The SLC was a nice experiment but just not as compelling as the same chassis in roadster form.

A few years ago I had the pleasure of driving an original 3.5-liter (M116) Euro 350SLC on the annual Alpentour. The car is part of the personal collection of Michael Kratzmeier, who owns two MB dealerships in Dachau and Unterschleissheim (north of Munich) and an MB body/paint shop in Allershausen. Decent car to drive (that motor was friggin SWEET, rev-happy V-8), but it's no 126 coupe....

Cheers,
Gerry

gsxr
01-06-2012, 09:24 AM
I found an orange Euro-spec SLC in a Pick+Pull here in Boise a couple months ago. Forget the exact model but it had a V8 under the hood. Not many parts removed (no demand in Idaho) but it was in sorry condition. Never seen one on the road before, they're not all that common, at least in this area!

:5150:

gerryvz
01-06-2012, 09:27 AM
That would have been a 450SLC, which were very common in the US. Early, iron-block M117. You should have "lifted" the solid lifters and cam followers for Jono ;-)

I have seen them very rarely, but they are out there.

gsxr
01-06-2012, 09:42 AM
Gerry, this was a true Euro car, gray market, complete with Federalization tags... could have been a 450SLC but I can't say for sure. Definitely an interesting color though.

:seesaw:

gerryvz
01-06-2012, 11:00 AM
More likely would have been a 350SLC than a 450SLC if the Boise car was a Euro.

Vame808
01-06-2012, 11:35 AM
Lol is that David Hasselhoff behind Gerry in the last pic lol

gerryvz
01-06-2012, 11:50 AM
Lol is that David Hasselhoff behind Gerry in the last pic lolNope, that's my good friend Thomas Grevel, who's the president of the Oldtimerfreunde-Freising car club (http://www.oldtimerfreunde-freising.de), which sponsors the annual Alpentour that I attend.

BTW here's the story of the Pagoda I drove in the 2011 Tour: http://www.oldtimerfreunde-freising.de/Pagoden%20Story/pagoden%20story.html

Nun das Frühjahr 2011 war vielversprechend. Trockenes Wetter und viel Sonne leisen die Hoffnung auf einen schönen Sommer steigen. Gerry aus USA kam zu Besuch und wir wollten die Hopfentour 2011 in HD filmen. Also ging es mit Pagode und „Staatskarosse“ auf die Tour. Es war die 13. Alpentour. Nun der geneigte Leser ist sicherlich nicht abergläubig…oder vielleicht doch?! Nun es wurde die Pleiten-, Pech-, und Pannentour. Auch wir wurden nicht verschont. Nach der Mittagspause in der Schafskäserei hatte sich auch noch der letzte Tropfen Hydraulikflüssigkeit aus dem Kupplungssystem verabschiedet. Bei einsetzendem Starkregen suchten wir nach einer Lösung. Flüssigkeit war rasch aufgefüllt aber die Luft war noch drin. Der letzte Anruf des sehr hilfsbereiten Bauern brachte die ersehnte Wende. Ein Mechaniker mit „Oldtimererfahrung “ hat seine Arbeitsstätte eine Toyota Werkstatt aufgeschlossen und den Kupplungsnehmerzylinder fachmännisch in ca. 40 Minuten ohne Hektik instandgesetzt. Er hätte ggfs. sogar ein Toyota Ersatzteil passend gemacht, das hätte dann möglicherweise etwas länger gedauert.

http://www.oldtimerfreunde-freising.de/Termine%201999-2011/Termine%202011/Alpentour%202011/Alpentour%202011%20Review/mein%20stress.png

http://www.oldtimerfreunde-freising.de/Termine%201999-2011/Termine%202011/Alpentour%202011/Alpentour%202011%20Review/Filmteam.png

bing
01-06-2012, 04:48 PM
Lol is that David Hasselhoff behind Gerry in the last pic lol

And who's the lady with a lovely smile then? ;)

gerryvz
01-06-2012, 04:57 PM
She's the wife of one of the tour participants ... just having a friendly convo after the fruhstück, before hopping in the cars and hitting the mountain roads for the day.

T-500
01-09-2012, 12:10 PM
I recently bought a book about the 107 roadsters, with a large section on the SLC.

Of all the photos, the SLC in that colour combination is really my absolute favourite. The euro headlights are a must!!

Interestingly, they were used as rally cars with some success.

gerryvz
01-09-2012, 01:21 PM
Interestingly, they were used as rally cars with some success.This is true. MB campaigned them during the late 70s during the time when the official ban on MB racing was still in full effect. Erich Waxenberger, who created the 300SEL 6.3 in 1967 (the grandfather of the 500E), oversaw this SLC rallying program for MB as head of the Experimental Department.

Erich is a really great guy; he's been retired for some years now (I think he retired around 1996 or so); his last project (MB called him back out of retirement for this project) was pre-production testing on the original ML (W163). I had the privilege of getting to know him when he came to Portland for the four-day M-100 Club gathering I hosted in PDX in 2001. It was a thrill to have this very important man in MB history at my own house, where I showed him my own garage and the 6.3 M100 engine I was rebuilding there; and to have him drive me around the Portland International Raceway track in my own 300SEL 6.3, getting completely sideways but always under complete control, and almost causing me to have a heart attack in fear for my life.

Wax splits his time between his summer home in Neuhausen (Stuttgart suburb) Germany and winter/ski home in Saas im Prattigau, Switzerland. I stayed with him and his wife in Saas in 2005 and we sat for about 4 hours one night at his kitchen table, and he told me first-hand of the story of developing the 6.3, of his secretly supplying Aufrecht and Melcher with free "spare" 6.3 engines for their "Rote Sau" (Red Pig) 300SEL 6.8-liter racing cars, and of his history in campaigning the 500SLC in rallies around the world. His mentor was chief engineer Rudolf Uhlenhaut.

You can find more about Wax's involvement with the SLC rallying efforts here:

http://www.mercedesheritage.com/2011/new-500slc-rally-cars/
http://northernresource.com/mercedes/107-slc.htm (Wax mentioned in the 6th paragraph)
http://www.m-100.cc/6point3/magazines/classicandsportscar_jan1999/waxenberger.html

1985mb
01-09-2012, 09:34 PM
This is true. MB campaigned them during the late 70s during the time when the official ban on MB racing was still in full effect. Erich Waxenberger, who created the 300SEL 6.3 in 1967 (the grandfather of the 500E), oversaw this SLC rallying program for MB as head of the Experimental Department.


Erich is a really great guy; he's been retired for some years now (I think he retired around 1996 or so); his last project (MB called him back out of retirement for this project) was pre-production testing on the original ML (W163). I had the privilege of getting to know him when he came to Portland for the four-day M-100 Club gathering I hosted in PDX in 2001. It was a thrill to have this very important man in MB history at my own house, where I showed him my own garage and the 6.3 M100 engine I was rebuilding there; and to have him drive me around the Portland International Raceway track in my own 300SEL 6.3, getting completely sideways but always under complete control, and almost causing me to have a heart attack in fear for my life.

Wax splits his time between his summer home in Neuhausen (Stuttgart suburb) Germany and winter/ski home in Saas im Prattigau, Switzerland. I stayed with him and his wife in Saas in 2005 and we sat for about 4 hours one night at his kitchen table, and he told me first-hand of the story of developing the 6.3, of his secretly supplying Aufrecht and Melcher with free "spare" 6.3 engines for their "Rote Sau" (Red Pig) 300SEL 6.8-liter racing cars, and of his history in campaigning the 500SLC in rallies around the world. His mentor was chief engineer Rudolf Uhlenhaut.

You can find more about Wax's involvement with the SLC rallying efforts here:

http://www.mercedesheritage.com/2011/new-500slc-rally-cars/
http://northernresource.com/mercedes/107-slc.htm (Wax mentioned in the 6th paragraph)
http://www.m-100.cc/6point3/magazines/classicandsportscar_jan1999/waxenberger.html

Any more of that 6.3 and Red Pig story?

T-500
01-09-2012, 10:52 PM
Great stories and great reading, Gerry.

Thanks for sharing.

The first Mercedes I drove was a 280SLC , IIRC, I was told that it was a very unusual engine size, and I know that it was imported from WA state. Could that have been correct?

It was lent to me by a friend for a week and was a fantastic ride!
Signal Red with a light cream leather interior, it sure got looks.
I knew I needed my own MB after that...

gerryvz
01-10-2012, 12:22 AM
Any more of that 6.3 and Red Pig story?Here are a few articles:

http://www.oocities.org/motorcity/downs/9323/w109amg.htm

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fauto%2Faktuell%2F0 %2C1518%2C415796%2C00.html

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/images/imported/2012/01/4.jpg



This is even better music to the ears than an M119 ... trust me on this one.....

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I attach a few photos of Waxenberger in his younger years, and as he is today at his home in Saas, Switzerland. Without this man, AMG would never have gotten off the ground.

Some views of and from the deck of Erich's house in Switzerland when I stayed with him and his wife...he kept a W140 inside the garage that I parked my SLK in front of.

Cheers,
Gerry

need2speed
01-10-2012, 03:15 PM
I prefer the SLC to the roadster, and yours is wonderful! In many climates, the soft-top just doesn't make sense, plus the racing potential of the SLC is very high ;-)

gerryvz
01-10-2012, 04:15 PM
The roadsters did come with a removable hard-top, which provides good protection and added chassis stiffness when installed. Not quite up to the level of a true coupe, but pretty close (and more versatile :) )

Cheers,
Gerry

036
01-11-2012, 06:52 AM
I love SLC- i love it´s curtains, they are kinda excuse for misshaped design, i love it`s terrible rust ( a propos rust- first SL´s are even worse...), i love it´s shy appearance...
And i have to say- i hate SL just for it´s shaky windscreen soooo much, so i´ll never ever buy one....I got a terrible headache because of jumpy screen and mirror on it....never even want to drive one again.

PS A propos curtains- how do you like back windows in a current E class coupe? Awful, and no excuses, as it was by SLC..