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    17" mononblocks

    Being a new owner of a 93 500e now beginning the slippery slope of me
    making the car my own. First step since date stamp on tires are 6 yrs old, 17" monoblocks. Best source to find and any tips for correct offsets, would be cool to find tires included. Thx
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    I have a set in NYC with almost new tires,
    will give it to you a lil cheaper than posted on CL
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/wto/5741541101.html

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Welcome.....my 2 cents: would advise going 18 inch staggered monoblocks from a w210 e55 instead of 17.......sizes are 18x8.5 / 9.5, et31/35 factory offsets of those can work without spacers and is a very simple install and an easy to find wheel at a reasonable price.....it will look light years better than 17s (IMO) and if you get premium tires like pilot super sports it will ride beautifully

    I went 19inch monoblocks and am very happy with my end result but it was not very easy at all to get there and I wouldn't recommend the headaches of "getting it right" for the 19 inch monoblocks for the faint of heart (had I not been as naive in thinking it wouldnt be that difficult to make the 19s work, I woulda just done the 18inch MBs from a w210 e55 and been done with it)


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Also bear in mind that there isn't the slightest reason to do a staggered fitment to these cars unless you just desperately need to have the look. A square set is so much easier to deal with day-in, day-out, and IMO, the ride and driving dynamics are better, too. The advice above is good. 18's are almost too little sidewall for these cars, and they absolutely hate most 19" and larger installations...
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Agree with klink's staggered comment, it's for aesthetics, but does look better imho.....also keep in mind it's probably easier to find a staggered set off an e55 as they came that way from MB......be careful of some of the square fitments sold on eBay, etc out there because if they weren't a pieced together set from multiple e55s (which most aren't) they often times are too high of an offset (believe from s-class?) and will require spacers.....my 19s are from an s-class and are et46, which is not end of world and are still workable if you are willing to put the square peg in round hole as I was, it just creates headaches of adding spacers (easy part) and getting the bolt situation correct (like multi-variable is calculus)

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    After some more research I would like to go with 17" non staggered, what offset do I need ? is best source to find e-bay and craigslist ?

    Great info. All, Thanks for that.

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Offset depends on width. Assuming you are looking at 8.5" width, offsets around ET30 would be ideal.


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    this is exactly what you need, no guessing game, I tried these on w124 036 - perfect fitment ! new tires, mounted & balanced

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/wto/5741541101.html


    Mercedes AMG monoblock wheels & tires c43 w202 w124 w210 r129 brabus - $1300 (brooklyn)

    if you see this ad the wheels are available ! if sold I will delete the ad!

    original, NOT AFTERMARKET ! Mercedes Benz AMG wheels with almost new BF Goodrich tires sizes 225-45-17 front and 245-40-17 rear.

    This package will fit most of the 90s and early 2000s Mercedes benz vehicles.

    Wheels are 17 x 7.5 et35 front (PN B66020083)and 17 x 8.5 et30 rear (PN B66020085) set from a 1999 C43 (W202) 5 x 112 bolt pattern, and 66.6 bore.

    Please don't send me low ball offers. You can buy aftermarket wheels cheaper and mount kumhos on them

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    7.5" fronts are narrower than stock and not recommended... and, they will not come close to filling out the front fenders. Sure, they will fit, but they won't look right on an E500E. These are great for a standard 124 chassis without fat fenders though.

    Wonder what the black 124 is in the photo with a RENNtech badge...


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    the 17 X 8.5 sets are a little harder to come by.. You can do what I did, buy two staggered sets, make up one 8.5 set for your 500 and then use the Narrow left overs on your std body 124. They work great on my 400E Plus excuse to get another car!

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    No spacers needed ? They look like great condition, any idea on shipping to So cal ? Thanks, Jeff

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Spacers are not required, but as mentioned in post #9, the fronts will look weird without spacers.


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffz993 View Post
    No spacers needed ? They look like great condition, any idea on shipping to So cal ? Thanks, Jeff
    Shipping will be $250 fedex ground insured.
    I have few different size spacers as well, I can test fit the front and take few pics if u r interested, lmk

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffz993 View Post
    After some more research I would like to go with 17" non staggered, what offset do I need ? is best source to find e-bay and craigslist ?

    Great info. All, Thanks for that.
    See this thread for information on the exact type of 17" non-staggered monoblocks that you are looking for. Jono is correct in that a set of 4 of these are rarely posted for sale, but can be assembled.

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/show...highlight=aero
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by 8899 View Post
    See this thread for information on the exact type of 17" non-staggered monoblocks that you are looking for. Jono is correct in that a set of 4 of these are rarely posted for sale, but can be assembled.

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/show...highlight=aero
    Yep, those are them. I just need to find a set not sold.

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Whats the correct offsets for 18" monos x 8.5

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffz993 View Post
    Whats the correct offsets for 18" monos x 8.5
    The 18" AMG Monoblocks that came stock with the W210 E55 have front width of 8" and an ET31 offset.
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffz993 View Post
    Whats the correct offsets for 18" monos x 8.5
    Here is a set of the 18" mono wheels, that are probably what you are looking for.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-AMG...NXlBQi&vxp=mtr

    Not a bad price for these wheels, (if they are represented correctly), and they are E500E friendly, a popular wheel set for many E500E owners, (and R129 owners)
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    i have right set for 500e 18 inch monoblock aero 8,5 front and 9,5 rear asking 1100.00 if interested
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Found a set of 18x8.5 all four with et47 would they fit correct? spacers?

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    The correct sets, (WITHOUT SPACERS AND EXTRA LONG LUG BOLTS), are 8 x 18 front ET31, 9 x 18 et35. The set in the ebay auction posted above is a perfect fit.

    Just about any wheel that is used on a SL (R129) or the early E55's are perfect. Your looking for wider wheels with an ET "generally" in the lower 30's.

    If you buy 8.5 x 9.5 sets, you will need spacers and longer lug bolts. These are S class wheels, to mount them on a E500E you need spacers.

    You'll need spacers in the 15mm to 20 mm range, and lug bolts that are 15 to 20mm longer that normal.

    Buying the right wheels sometimes requires patience. The right set will always come around, just take your time and buy the right ones the first time, and you won't end up with a set of W140 "S" wheels that are harder to get rid of. I have a storage shed full of wheels, some of them purchased when I didn't know much about wheel fitment, and I was too much in a hurry like you are now.

    I would never buy "S" class wheels to put on an "E" class car. Can you make "S" class wheels fit an "E" class? Yes, but why do it when the correct fitment wheels are available?

    Sooner or later you most likely will want a different look for wheels, and then you'll have this set of "S" class wheels and spacers and lugs, trying to convince the next guy they will fit his E500E too.

    If it's economics driving your purchase choice, just remember that "S" class wheels will be harder to sell some day than the SL-E55 wheels.

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffz993 View Post
    Found a set of 18x8.5 all four with et47 would they fit correct? spacers?
    Those are from an S-class. Besides the wrong offset (which will require ~20mm hubcentric spacers), they also have larger bolt holes, requiring custom lug bolts with M12 thread and R14 ball seat. Or a spacer that accepts M12 bolts.

    Outerbnks summed it up very well: "I would never buy "S" class wheels to put on an "E" class car. Can you make "S" class wheels fit an "E" class? Yes, but why do it when the correct fitment wheels are available?"


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by 8899 View Post
    See this thread for information on the exact type of 17" non-staggered monoblocks that you are looking for...

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/show...highlight=aero
    Yep, a square set of those is a great way to go if going for 17"s.

    Too little sidewall, harsher overall ride & more power required to get anything of larger diameter rolling. A staggered set loses its swank when one goes flat...i.e. is there a spare to replace it? what width is the spare?

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Can't find the right wheels for my 500e and Need to do a road trip so looking for tires to put on stock wheels. recommended was BFG 245-60 zr 16 but tire rack says not available. Input on options would be great. Thx

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Stock wheels use tire size 225/55/16. I wouldn't attempt any "plus" sizing as it will just add sidewall flex and make the handling sloppy.

    Michelins are highly recommended by most forum members, on a tighter budget try Continental DW (summer) or DWS (all-season).


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Looking at a set of AMG Aero I wheels that are 17" x 8 ET28. Will these wheels work for the 500 e without rubbing or clearance issues with brakes? How will the 28 offset affect the look, better or worse in terms of filling out wheel well?

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam SL View Post
    Looking at a set of AMG Aero I wheels that are 17" x 8 ET28. Will these wheels work for the 500 e without rubbing or clearance issues with brakes? How will the 28 offset affect the look, better or worse in terms of filling out wheel well?
    Those will sit 6mm further out than stock wheels, and fill out the fenders a bit more. Should work great, although I'm not 100% certain about clearing the brake calipers. Can you post a photo of the exact wheel in question?


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    OH! Those are very early (1980s-vintage) Monoblocks. I'm not sure if they will clear 500E brakes without spacers. Do you know what brake calipers are on your car (300mm Brembo, 300mm Ate, or 320mm Ate)?

    I think Jono may need to chime in about fitment...


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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    28's are for narrow body W124's. You want ET11's. These will clear the early/alloy caliper brakes NP. Not so sure about the later stuff..


    That said, if you don't buy these wheels let me know, I'm always looking for 28's for my narrow body stuffs!

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    Don't know by description but I believe they are whatever came with a 92 model.

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    they were made in 92... The pre-merger small center cap Aero I had been around since the mid 80's.
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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    I am interested in these wheels as well if you don't buy them.
    Thanks

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    Re: 17" mononblocks

    So does anyone know if the Aero I wheels, either ET28 or ET11, will clear the 334 Brembos?

    Quote Originally Posted by jhodg5ck View Post
    28's are for narrow body W124's. You want ET11's. These will clear the early/alloy caliper brakes NP. Not so sure about the later stuff..


    That said, if you don't buy these wheels let me know, I'm always looking for 28's for my narrow body stuffs!

    thanks!

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