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    How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Hi!

    I have a question about painting my trunk inside. Due to lot of rust all panels were replaced with new ones. So now we need to respay it. My older panels were repaired several times so it is hard to tell what colour they were before.

    I want to get OEM look inside but I couldnt find pictures of factory trunk paint in RED cars. My colour is 512 Almandin red and it seems like it was painted in flat black with some red paint near the edges but I am not sure.

    If it is possible for owners of RED cars to take pictures of the trunk with all liners removed then it will really help me

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Sayhey, all w124's were fully immersed in a Primer bath once the shell was fabricated.

    In my experience the boot or trunk finishes are mainly the primer (light grey) with satin black sprayed around the taillamp areas and usually (but not always) inside the spare wheel tub also. The body colour appears only on top of the chassis rails adjacent to the spare wheel tub - possibly overspray from when the shell is painted.

    I do have an almandine red w124 at home so I will take pictures for you of inside the boot later on tonight.
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    Sayhey, all w124's were fully immersed in a Primer bath once the shell was fabricated.

    In my experience the boot or trunk finishes are mainly the primer (light grey) with satin black sprayed around the taillamp areas and usually (but not always) inside the spare wheel tub also. The body colour appears only on top of the chassis rails adjacent to the spare wheel tub - possibly overspray from when the shell is painted.

    I do have an almandine red w124 at home so I will take pictures for you of inside the boot later on tonight.
    Thanks a lot!

    Please make 5-10 high resolution pics!
    My body is in primer now, so the next step will be painting inside

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Here's a pic of an original 512 trunk:

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    The 2,201 mile silver car that sold recently had a black wheel well area.

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11351

    Do the experts think it came like that or did someone feel the need to paint it even though the car has barely moved?

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melville View Post
    The 2,201 mile silver car that sold recently had a black wheel well area.

    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11351

    Do the experts think it came like that or did someone feel the need to paint it even though the car has barely moved?
    Sometimes the factory painted both the wheel tub and around the taillamps. Other times they paint around the taillamps and only cover the factory overspray around the wheel tub leaving primer still clearly visible. And yet other times just the taillamps and no black in the spare wheel well at all...

    I think this is just plain old human error! Since the shell was fully dipped then machine sprayed, the only item subject to human application was the dark satin black / charcoal colour paint (And brush on seal sealer for that matter)

    There is no right or wrong answer IMHO - each car was slightly different when it left the factory in respect of the paint (not readily visible) inside the boot area.
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Not sure if this will help but I was looking for the same information the other day and found out that the gray color in the trunk (primer???) is 7167 Tiefdunkelgrau. Mine (color code 199) has the trunk dark gray with body color overspary in places.
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    The first picture is a picture of my signal red trunk as it came to me ---- I had sprayed a little black corrosion preventative treatment on two selected areas. Aside from the obvious black areas, the finish I believe to be original.

    The second picture represents my trunk after I resprayed the bottom of the wheel tub --- note that I carefully tried to preserve the "Grey primer" look on the sides of the tub.

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    The color code for the inner trunk, depending on model year it is sprayed in the spare wheel tub, around the tail lights (I. E. all visible areas) in 7167
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    See this thread for more info:
    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4928

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    Sayhey, all w124's were fully immersed in a Primer bath once the shell was fabricated.

    In my experience the boot or trunk finishes are mainly the primer (light grey) with satin black sprayed around the taillamp areas and usually (but not always) inside the spare wheel tub also. The body colour appears only on top of the chassis rails adjacent to the spare wheel tub - possibly overspray from when the shell is painted.

    I do have an almandine red w124 at home so I will take pictures for you of inside the boot later on tonight.
    Hi!

    Any news on the pics?)

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by SayHey View Post
    Hi!

    Any news on the pics?)
    Im not at home tonight but I'll take pictures & upload them here tomorrow morning
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    OK I went to my Almandine W124 saloon & took the trunk linings out so I could get pics for you. Note that this car has quite alot of the satin black paint in the boot. Note that in some areas the Almandine overspray is visible where the Black is peeling. These pictures also show the extent of the Black Spray as applied around the tail lamps etc.

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    I do also need to re-paint inside my 500E’s boot so I will be using a Satin Black paint now on seeing this totally 100% original W124’s boot area. The Gold coloured stuff is actually Dinitrol anti rust wax which I applied around 10 – 12 years ago – so ignore it for purposes of this thread. I have left the linings out as I have some small areas of surface rust to take care of as seen in the pics. But this car is all original & never in an accident so it’s a good guinea pig for this thread.
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC220 View Post
    OK I went to my Almandine W124 saloon & took the trunk linings out so I could get pics for you. Note that this car has quite alot of the satin black paint in the boot. Note that in some areas the Almandine overspray is visible where the Black is peeling. These pictures also show the extent of the Black Spray as applied around the tail lamps etc.

    I do also need to re-paint inside my 500E’s boot so I will be using a Satin Black paint now on seeing this totally 100% original W124’s boot area. The Gold coloured stuff is actually Dinitrol anti rust wax which I applied around 10 – 12 years ago – so ignore it for purposes of this thread. I have left the linings out as I have some small areas of surface rust to take care of as seen in the pics. But this car is all original & never in an accident so it’s a good guinea pig for this thread.
    Thanks a lot!

    Based on everything written here I have decided to go with grey + red colour. Black is too dark, and if all of these colours were from factory I prefer lighter colour)

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    Hi guys,

    I need some advice please.

    I had the thought of sorting some surface rust out in the boot of my Mercedes.

    There was a lot of old hard wax in there and the only thing that seems to shift it is paint thinner. So i used this to remove the wax. It did a good job.

    But...BUT...this paint thinner also got onto the seam sealer. My question is will it have damaged the seam sealer?

    The idea was to clean all the gunk/wax...etch prime, then high build prime followed by topcoat.

    Or do i now need to remove all the seam sealer and start again?

    HELP!!!


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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    As long the seam sealer is not dissolved from the thinner there is no need to redo it. If the seam sealer is dissolved or rust went under it, it must be removed treated by primer and resealed again by seam sealer. The correct paint for the trunk inner visible are is MB 7167 deep dark grey in silk/satin gloss application as stated before. Matt black or satin black is not the same!
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Thanks Rouven.

    Are you sure its not Mercedes-Benz Galanite Grey (7129)???


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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    No, galinite Grey is lighter.
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    Where can i buy this from? Cant find anywhere in the UK that has it!

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Any professional paint shop should be able to mix the formula. Important if it's a waterbased paint - need semi/silk gloss grade clear coat. For conventional paints also gloss level should be semi/silk gloss. No full matt nor glossy.
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Thanks Rouven, You were right Galanite is too light! I tested on a patch.

    I found a paint supplier. They can provide solvent aerosol can, i have asked for semi silk gloss (no clear coat).

    Is this correct?

    Also what colour primer should i use? Original was beige colour, or can i use grey?

    Many thanks!!!
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Did anyone else find minimal rusting on the interior of their trunk right under the spare, on an otherwise clean/rust-free 036? Looking at everyone's photos, it seems to be common enough.

    Just not sure how it could start rusting in there on the interior side, seeing as my spare tire/wheel is brand new and has no signs of usage.

    It was very minimal on a tiny spot (maybe 1-2 cm wide) so I had the rust removed and resprayed on that one part, all good now.

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynch View Post
    Did anyone else find minimal rusting on the interior of their trunk right under the spare, on an otherwise clean/rust-free 036? Looking at everyone's photos, it seems to be common enough.

    Just not sure how it could start rusting in there on the interior side, seeing as my spare tire/wheel is brand new and has no signs of usage.
    I've seen that multiple times - pretty odd, I don't have a good explanation. There is a vent at the bottom of the spare time well, perhaps moisture enters through that in a humid environment?


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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by back2thefuture View Post
    Thanks Rouven, You were right Galanite is too light! I tested on a patch.

    I found a paint supplier. They can provide solvent aerosol can, i have asked for semi silk gloss (no clear coat).

    Is this correct?

    Also what colour primer should i use? Original was beige colour, or can i use grey?

    Many thanks!!!
    You are welcome. No clear coat to be used if the paint is 1k and silk/semi gloss level.
    As a primer it doesn't matter if Grey or beige.
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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    The slight rust (on edges where the spare wheel lid touches the rear cross member, or under the spare wheel itself or on the fixing bracket edges on the bottom of the tub) in the spare wheel tub is quite common. At least in Germany... There are different reasons, the paint on the rear cross member or under the spare wheel itself gets worn through from the moving/vibrating of the lid or the spare wheel under driving conditions. Due to condensation and expansion (trunk gets warm due to the exhaust and when stopped, the external/humid air gets sucked in while the trunk space cools down. The condensation takes place on the then coldest areas i.e. the tub area and promotes rust on areas where paint is worn through etc. Also the paint coat thicknes inside the trunk is very thin which makes the metal more likely to rust...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rouven036 View Post
    You are welcome. No clear coat to be used if the paint is 1k and silk/semi gloss level.
    As a primer it doesn't matter if Grey or beige.
    Thanks Rouven you have been very kind with sharing your knowledge, we all appreciate it

    If you had to choose what colour primer to use, what would you use? I have both beige and grey.

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    You are welcome, glad to help... However really doesn't matter since the material properties should be identical. Possibly choose what is closer to the original primer.
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    Im making good progress
    Do i need to use a clearcoat to protect the finish?

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    Re: How was trunk painted inside from factoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by back2thefuture View Post
    Im making good progress
    Do i need to use a clearcoat to protect the finish?
    you should coat it with matt clearcoat.So instead of the gloss clear....use rather matt finish clearcoat.which will add protection and seal the paint and primer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    you should coat it with matt clearcoat.So instead of the gloss clear....use rather matt finish clearcoat.which will add protection and seal the paint and primer.
    Thanks lowman!
    I dont think the finish inside the boot had any clearcoat on from the factory. Here is how it looked before i started work on it. This is the original finish:


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