Ok - lets imagine you had to pick an undercover police car to chase the fast and furious baddies that can‘t shift and have neon lights in the next movie 190E 2.5-16 or 500E?
Ok - lets imagine you had to pick an undercover police car to chase the fast and furious baddies that can‘t shift and have neon lights in the next movie 190E 2.5-16 or 500E?
Dave M.
1997 E420 (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 (Blondie)
1994 E500 (Q-ship)
1992 500E (Mach 5)
1987 300D (Sportline Stage 2)
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500E. Did you have to ask?
gsxr (12-25-2017), Ntrepid (12-25-2017), Taxi Driver (12-25-2017)
Those vehicles have their own forum at 190Revolution.net, last time I checked.
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The handling it much better on a 16valve.
Engine are not to fast, but it's easyer to tune the engine than remove weight and size.
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The 190E Cossie certainly feels a quicker car off the mark and more alive... The 500E definitely has the top end though..
So an inner city chase, id probably say 190E.
For a highway type pursuit the 500E.
lowman (01-19-2018), Stevester 500E (07-04-2018)
I'll take the 500E in all cases. I think IF there's a handling difference on the 190E, it's not enough to overcome everything else (strength, speed, durability). And I'm frankly not sold on the handling difference.
maw
500E in every case.
Trae
1992 500E Renntech
1993 500E
1990 560SEC/ 2001 SL500
1991 560SEC ECE/1995 E320 Cabriolet
I would have offered the same solution as Jaymanek. I haven't driven a 190 Cossie, but would have assumed that the 190 would offer greater agility in the confines of an inner city environment - and thus have an advantage over the E500E, as the E500E has never (as far as I know) been recognised as a "sportster", but rather as a long distance tourer?
However, if there are any prizes for the answer, maybe the clue is in the question - which states "fast and furious". That definitely sounds more E500E than 190!
Stephen
Stevester 500E (07-04-2018)
"Wasn´t that a slowest sport saloon on the market?" Top Gear on 2,3-16V. Should i say more...
You can´t treat a car like a human.
You must love it. (c) Walter Röhrl.
well...2.3-16 is slower than the 2-5-16 anyways
But a race around town...the 16v would crush the 500e in terms of agility and handling,of course on a high way speed pursuit...it would be the other way around ,,or maybe not...the 16 valvers are no slouches even though they have alot less horspower
1992 w124 500e "Blackbeauty"
1989 w201 190e 2.5-16 Evo spec "Evoltwin"
2003 Ford Focus Rs (Sold)
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You can´t treat a car like a human.
You must love it. (c) Walter Röhrl.
Lovely city![]()
1992 w124 500e "Blackbeauty"
1989 w201 190e 2.5-16 Evo spec "Evoltwin"
2003 Ford Focus Rs (Sold)
" Destination ???, It's the ride that takes you there! "
1993 500E W124.036 040/271
1965 220b W111.010 Heckflosse
...and I can attest to the 500E's legitimacy from personal experience. 9 years ago almost to this day, I had a high speed cat & mouse shoot-out with a fast & furious Lamborghini on the Atlanta interstate while on my way home from Texas after buying my 500E.
The 500E very respectfully held its own with the Lambo under those driving conditions.
Holy sh*t, my heat beat is elevated just reminiscing that exchange.
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" Destination ???, It's the ride that takes you there! "
1993 500E W124.036 040/271
1965 220b W111.010 Heckflosse
gerryvz (02-16-2018)
There is not a big difference between 2.3-16 and 2.5-16 if the cars are ok, not beaten up. I have driven those cars, and 500e, and 500 need a lot more space to work well.
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1992 w124 500e "Blackbeauty"
1989 w201 190e 2.5-16 Evo spec "Evoltwin"
2003 Ford Focus Rs (Sold)
170hp 2.3 and a 195hp 2.5 do have a bit difference. But didn't that 2.3 have lower gear in the diff? Anyway, in a city they all have more handling, response and lower weight to wrestling with.
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167hp to be exact.the 2.3 15 had 3.07 ratio..so more "top speed".
but yeah..anyways...definetly more handling in the 190e 16 valve cars..than the 500e"s...much more nimble car...obviously...beeing ALOT lighter.
1992 w124 500e "Blackbeauty"
1989 w201 190e 2.5-16 Evo spec "Evoltwin"
2003 Ford Focus Rs (Sold)
Nice Looking Cab parked on right side curb@ 2:11...
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