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    Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Ok - lets imagine you had to pick an undercover police car to chase the fast and furious baddies that can‘t shift and have neon lights in the next movie 190E 2.5-16 or 500E?

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by gfl108 View Post
    Ok - lets imagine you had to pick an undercover police car to chase the fast and furious baddies that can‘t shift and have neon lights in the next movie 190E 2.5-16 or 500E?
    Assuming you want to keep them in sight, pick the 500E.

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    500E. Did you have to ask?

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by 126v8 View Post
    500E. Did you have to ask?

    Right? I mean technically its called the "500eboard.com" As much as I like them, its not called the "oneninetyEtwopointfivedash16board.com"

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Those vehicles have their own forum at 190Revolution.net, last time I checked.


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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    The handling it much better on a 16valve.
    Engine are not to fast, but it's easyer to tune the engine than remove weight and size.

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    The 190E Cossie certainly feels a quicker car off the mark and more alive... The 500E definitely has the top end though..

    So an inner city chase, id probably say 190E.
    For a highway type pursuit the 500E.

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    I'll take the 500E in all cases. I think IF there's a handling difference on the 190E, it's not enough to overcome everything else (strength, speed, durability). And I'm frankly not sold on the handling difference.

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    500E in every case.
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by jaymanek View Post
    The 190E Cossie certainly feels a quicker car off the mark and more alive... The 500E definitely has the top end though..

    So an inner city chase, id probably say 190E.
    For a highway type pursuit the 500E.
    I would have offered the same solution as Jaymanek. I haven't driven a 190 Cossie, but would have assumed that the 190 would offer greater agility in the confines of an inner city environment - and thus have an advantage over the E500E, as the E500E has never (as far as I know) been recognised as a "sportster", but rather as a long distance tourer?

    However, if there are any prizes for the answer, maybe the clue is in the question - which states "fast and furious". That definitely sounds more E500E than 190!

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    "Wasn´t that a slowest sport saloon on the market?" Top Gear on 2,3-16V. Should i say more...
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by 036 View Post
    "Wasn´t that a slowest sport saloon on the market?" Top Gear on 2,3-16V. Should i say more...
    well...2.3-16 is slower than the 2-5-16 anyways
    But a race around town...the 16v would crush the 500e in terms of agility and handling,of course on a high way speed pursuit...it would be the other way around ,,or maybe not...the 16 valvers are no slouches even though they have alot less horspower
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    well...2.3-16 is slower than the 2-5-16 anyways
    But a race around town...the 16v would crush the 500e in terms of agility and handling,of course on a high way speed pursuit...it would be the other way around ,,or maybe not...the 16 valvers are no slouches even though they have alot less horspower
    I mean 2.5, sorry...
    Well, the only car which can escape 500E in the city is Honda Civic CRX Vtec. 190 has no chance, we try many times
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by 036 View Post
    I mean 2.5, sorry...
    Well, the only car which can escape 500E in the city is Honda Civic CRX Vtec. 190 has no chance, we try many times
    depends on the size of the city then ?
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    depends on the size of the city then ?
    How is about Lübeck? Older than 850 years, you can imagine
    500E is faster as 129 and 140 500, and much fast than any 201, exept Evo and 3.2. And even against those two chances are high

    PS Short drive through Lübeck i´ve posted already...

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Lovely city
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by gfl108 View Post
    Ok - lets imagine you had to pick an undercover police car to chase the fast and furious baddies that can‘t shift and have neon lights in the next movie 190E 2.5-16 or 500E?
    Already been done. Lest we forget, the producers of the predecessor to Fast & Furious, Taxi (1998), chose the 500E (however as the choice ride of the baddies).

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    ...and I can attest to the 500E's legitimacy from personal experience. 9 years ago almost to this day, I had a high speed cat & mouse shoot-out with a fast & furious Lamborghini on the Atlanta interstate while on my way home from Texas after buying my 500E.

    The 500E very respectfully held its own with the Lambo under those driving conditions.

    Holy sh*t, my heat beat is elevated just reminiscing that exchange.


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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    Already been done. Lest we forget, the producers of the predecessor to Fast & Furious, Taxi (1998), chose the 500E (however as the choice ride of the baddies).
    In Ronin 500E from Taxi was pulling De Niro´s Peugeot
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    There is not a big difference between 2.3-16 and 2.5-16 if the cars are ok, not beaten up. I have driven those cars, and 500e, and 500 need a lot more space to work well.

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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    Quote Originally Posted by w201-16 View Post
    There is not a big difference between 2.3-16 and 2.5-16 if the cars are ok, not beaten up.

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    Between a mentioned 2.3-16 US SPEC car and a 2.5-16 euro spec car..there is quite a difference in the horsepower.But of course..its not like you break your neck from the acceleration in a 2.5.16 versus a 2.3-16.....but still...quite a difference.
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    170hp 2.3 and a 195hp 2.5 do have a bit difference. But didn't that 2.3 have lower gear in the diff? Anyway, in a city they all have more handling, response and lower weight to wrestling with.


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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

    167hp to be exact. the 2.3 15 had 3.07 ratio..so more "top speed".

    but yeah..anyways...definetly more handling in the 190e 16 valve cars..than the 500e"s...much more nimble car...obviously...beeing ALOT lighter.
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    Re: Fast and Furious with 500E or 190E 2.5-16

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