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    Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Now that I have a daily driver squared away, I'm contemplating a fun weekender purchase sometime in the next 18 months or so. Just doing some browsing, and I came across this (is this actually a W113?)

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    1971 Mercedes Benz 280 SL California Coupe, $83,000
    http://www.jemmotorcorp.com/detail-1...-15408206.html

    When I was a kid we had 2 of the W108's (250 and the 280sel). I think both were 1971's. I believe the 250 is still on the road, being driven my brother's X. Always loved those models, and always thought that this coupe was gorgeous.

    I guess the question I have for the group, is what kind of maintenance issues might I be seeing with one of these? Are parts still available? How hard/easy is DIY maintenance?

    Any input would be appreciated.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    The other option is to go with what I'm already very familiar with, and what is a lot less pricey to buy...

    1995 Mercedes-Benz E Class

    E Class 2dr Cabriolet 3.2L

    1995 Mercedes Benz E 320 Cabriolet 1-Owner, $28,000
    (Only 22K miles)

    VIN = WDBEA66E5SC253291

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Or, I can spend all day drooling over the W111/112...

    Our neighbor in Los Angeles had one of these - in white. Mint condition. She bought it new. Kept it garaged. Approx 12 yrs ago someone broke into her garage and stole it while she was out of town. They must have been tracking her and the car. A damn shame.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    If you don't have a strong preference to appearances... I'd go with the A124 cabriolet, simply because it is MUCH easier to maintain, service, diagnose, repair two of the same chassis. Especially since your new W124 E320 daily driver has the identical engine & powertrain as the cabrio.

    As a bonus, the 124 cabrios are likely to appreciate in value, while still being affordable to obtain right now. The one you linked to at ~$30k is probably near top of the market value, you could probably find one just as nice for less $$$... or find one with a less-common color combo, and/or with more options. The $30k car has heated seats which is nice, but no ASR (less of an issue if it's only driven on warm sunny days).

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    I was set on purchasing a W124 Cab last year. I scoured the interweb and located a few that I thought were nice cars with low mileage. I paid for PPI's on three cars that all came back with expensive issues. None of the sellers had any interest in correcting the problems nor were they willing to bend on the prices to cover deferred maintenance. I ended up purchasing the Imperial Red E500 which wiped out my cab budget. I am very pleased with the E500. But, I still have a hankering for a nice cab or coupe. I just wish they came with a V8 option. The M104 is an okay engine but it isn't going to get you anywhere in a hurry. I guess if I found a really clean, low mileage cab in my neighborhood I'd figure out a way to get it.

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Quote Originally Posted by Maui View Post
    I was set on purchasing a W124 Cab last year. I scoured the interweb and located a few that I thought were nice cars with low mileage. I paid for PPI's on three cars that all came back with expensive issues. None of the sellers had any interest in correcting the problems nor were they willing to bend on the prices to cover deferred maintenance. I ended up purchasing the Imperial Red E500 which wiped out my cab budget. I am very pleased with the E500. But, I still have a hankering for a nice cab or coupe. I just wish they came with a V8 option. The M104 is an okay engine but it isn't going to get you anywhere in a hurry. I guess if I found a really clean, low mileage cab in my neighborhood I'd figure out a way to get it.


    I own e320 cab and 500e and while M104 is not as fun as M119 you dont have to worry about timing rails eating your engine.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Quote Originally Posted by Maui View Post
    The M104 is an okay engine but it isn't going to get you anywhere in a hurry
    I'm at the stage where there is no where I wanna get to in a hurry

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    What are your requirements and budget let that dictate your purchase?

    I had a 124 cabby for a number of years along with 500 and while it was nice at the time I dont miss it actually but I do think its a very nice car. I am likely in the minority but I dont think it will appreciate in value and become a collectors piece. I hope Im wrong for all you owners but I just dont see it happening.

    Now if I had the budget for a 111/112 thats a different story

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Quote Originally Posted by Spruce500e View Post
    What are your requirements and budget let that dictate your purchase?
    I think I have same goals as I had for the e320 that the board found for me. Mint condition, very well maintained, low mileage. Hopefully have already replaced wiring harness and main seals. I want some thing that's not going to immediately become a weekend chore for me. Happy to maintain, and keep in pristine condition, but I don't want to have to do a huge number of repairs soon after purchase.

    Perhaps the only difference is that I'd like to find a 94/95 with either black/beige interior, and black/champagne (#702 Smoke Silver) exterior.

    As soonest, I'd be able to make plunge end of year. I guess if I could find all of the above, I'd go up to $30K. And now that I have had a huge amount of experience getting a car transported, not sure I care where she originates.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    As a recent example, this one has been offered for a couple months. A very nice looking example at the very high end of the price scale. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/c...424718940.html
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    As a recent example, this one has been offered for a couple months. A very nice looking example at the very high end of the price scale. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/c...424718940.html
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    FWIW, I think buying and occasionally using a nice low milage 124 cabrio might even have some small ROI in the future aside from the pleasure derived from driving it. But I wouldn't give up my DD coupe.
    The cabrio always looks real "special", I'm only just coupe 'special'.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenstevensteven View Post
    ... Hopefully have already replaced wiring harness and main seals. I want some thing that's not going to immediately become a weekend chore for me. Happy to maintain, and keep in pristine condition, but I don't want to have to do a huge number of repairs soon after purchase.
    It would be unusual to find a car that truly needs nothing. Just factor in a few $k for stuff to be done immediately after purchase, then it should be ok for quite a while. Pretty much like you did with the head gasket on the daily driver.

    I think Robert Fenton may have had a nice smoke silver cabrio available? Gerry would know the current status.


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    Quote Originally Posted by northNH View Post
    FWIW, I think buying and occasionally using a nice low milage 124 cabrio might even have some small ROI in the future aside from the pleasure derived from driving it. But I wouldn't give up my DD coupe.
    The cabrio always looks real "special", I'm only just coupe 'special'.
    Yeah, I am certainly not buying to sell. Definitely planning to keep the E320 and the Cabo for as long as my Carbon is still functioning.

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    It would be unusual to find a car that truly needs nothing. Just factor in a few $k for stuff to be done immediately after purchase, then it should be ok for quite a while. Pretty much like you did with the head gasket on the daily driver.

    I think Robert Fenton may have had a nice smoke silver cabrio available? Gerry would know the current status.

    That would be awesome if someone you guys already know and trust have one. Thx. But probably 9-months away from having cash.

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Hey guys! I bought this 93 300ce cabriolet last June and drove it home from St Louis to Memphis. With 77k mi it was in great cosmetic and mechanical condition. It was in storage for 5 years before I brought it home. I spent about $1000 in the first couple of months replacing sensors, rewiring and installing the original radio, and installing a new wiring harness. It runs great. I paid $9K and similar cars are going for much more.


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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    A124 cabriolets are one of the biggest bargains going right now, probably along with the R129 roadsters.

    There is NO DOUBT that these cars are going to appreciate, and significantly, in the coming 5-10 years, and far more in the next 20 years if someone cars to hang onto one that long.

    $30K would be about the top of the market for a cabriolet in today's market, and excellent buys can be had for the $12-15K range. $15-17K would buy a very very nice example with decent mileage (well below 100K) and great cosmetics, in a good color combination.

    For people who enjoy the 124, a cabrio is really an excellent buy. In 3-5 years, we won't be saying this as the prices will have gone up. They are fairly rare (not many made) and have yet to be "discovered" by many MB aficionados.

    Sure, they only have the M104 engine, but they have plenty of get-up-and-go when needed, and we all know the reliability and overall niceness -- along with the quirks -- of the M104.

    I highly recommend an A124 as a usable investment for folks who are 124 aficionados. Even if you only hang onto the car for 5 years, you can drive and enjoy it and very very likely sell it for more than you paid for it (or at least what you paid for it) when it comes time to sell.

    Remember the adage that MB coupes and drop-tops tend to do better in the market, long-term, than four-door models. This will hold true with the A124 as well.

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    P.S. Personally, if I had to make the decision to buy a 111/112 cabrio or an A124, I'd buy the A124 hands down. A MUCH more usable investment that will require much less maintenance. Sure, it is much further down the appreciation curve than the 111/112, but time shows that it will appreciate.

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Is speed really a big concern on a rolling bathtub?

    I like the C124's a whole bunch. For gentle cruising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    $30K would be about the top of the market for a cabriolet in today's market, and excellent buys can be had for the $12-15K range. $15-17K would buy a very very nice example with decent mileage (well below 100K) and great cosmetics, in a good color combination.
    This is great to know. Thanks.

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    The following are the production numbers for the coupe and cabriolet:

    The US production numbers are as follows:

    Cabriolet

    1993 - 766
    1994 - 1,698
    1995 - 3,676
    Total 6,140

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    1988 2,734 $52,500
    1989 2,318 $53,880
    1990 2,182 $55,700
    1991 1,929 $57,350
    1992 1,846 $60,400
    1993 1,019 $61,000
    1994 825 $61,600
    1995 307 $63,000

    Total: 13,160 (8 years in production)

    In contrast the R107 generated 200,000 units from mid-seventies until the late-eighties.

    The Horsepower of the M104 was about 230HP and was equal to or greater than the R107.

    The top end for the M104 is about 150mph.

    This car isn't a slouch to drive and performs quite well.

    This is my 93 300ce:

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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    So the $64k one for sale in NY is overpriced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spruce500e View Post
    So the $64k one for sale in NY is overpriced?
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    Oh, I actually recall seeing this one. It's listing is live again on ebay, but now you can get it for $59.7K
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Merced...-/162870354365

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    Champion Motors International is pleased to present a very rare 1994 Mercedes E 320 Cabriolet finished in a triple black configuration. This Mercedes has only one owner and has travels only 6000 meticulously maintained miles. For the Collector or Enthusiast , this is truly a great find.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    The $59,7 is the minimum opening bid in the Reserve auction.

    The Seller is on crack.

    I referenced an excellent comparable from BaT in the GCFSB commentary.
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    This one is certainly out of the ordinary.

    https://mercedesheritage.com/classified/show-ad?id=382


    Not sure I understand the comment about the AZ remanufactured title....
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    Definitely a crack-smoker price. I could see such a car going for $40-45K, tops.

    I don't think even the Classic Center would try to sell this car for that price, at the present time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace10 View Post
    The $59,7 is the minimum opening bid in the Reserve auction.

    The Seller is on crack.

    I referenced an excellent comparable from BaT in the GCFSB commentary.
    Well, you know, the low odometer, the word “collector” and the word “enthusiast” in the description are each worth $20k. Nothing about the car is, unless you’re just not interested in spirited driving, in which case I’d prefer a 280SE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmchann View Post
    The US production numbers are as follows:

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    1993 - 766
    1994 - 1,698
    1995 - 3,676
    Total 6,140
    I crossed paths with two MB convertibles this past summer rarely seen in my locale. Had I been aware of the MY93 low importation volume, I'd have given further investigation to the 300CE for sale.

    ...but if forced to choose, I'm fairly certain I'd gravitate towards the 500SL. I'm much more familiar with the engine & I'm much more enticed by the adrenaline rush I think it would provide me.

    ...and the maximum of only one co-pilot yelling at me to slow down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    I crossed paths with two MB convertibles this past summer rarely seen in my locale. Had I been aware of the MY93 low importation volume, I'd have given further investigation to the 300CE for sale.

    ...but if forced to choose, I'm fairly certain I'd gravitate towards the 500SL. I'm much more familiar with the engine & I'm much more enticed by the adrenaline rush I think it would provide me.

    ...and the maximum of only one co-pilot yelling at me to slow down!
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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenstevensteven View Post
    Oh, I actually recall seeing this one. It's listing is live again on ebay, but now you can get it for $59.7K
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Merced...-/162870354365

    Champion Motors International is pleased to present a very rare 1994 Mercedes E 320 Cabriolet finished in a triple black configuration. This Mercedes has only one owner and has travels only 6000 meticulously maintained miles. For the Collector or Enthusiast , this is truly a great find.
    That does seem priced above the current market. However, a cost-no-object collector might be interested. Clearly this isn't something most normal people would buy as a weekend cruiser. At least it has ASR and bun warmers.

    On a side note, there is nothing "triple black" about this car. It has black paint and interior with gray bumpers & moulding. It's not like you could order a different color top, and this paint code was never offered with black bumpers / moulding.


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    My cab
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    Those are some sticky tires you've got there Dario!


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    Re: Contemplating the Cabriolets

    2007-2008 CLK63 Cabs are cheap to buy now (low 20s for a low mile car)....much rarer than the Black Series cars....and nearly as fast.

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    124 cabs are bargains
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    Low price AND low miles ! Can't argue those numbers...

    Looks to be in a nice part of town too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dario View Post
    124 cabs are bargains
    Just wild prices.

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    What do u think ?

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...0/2065246.html

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    Location: Old Lyme, Connecticut, 06371
    VIN #: WDBEA66E0SC211577
    Mileage: 30828
    Transmission: Auto
    Condition: Excellent
    Exterior: Black
    Interior: Parchment

    Seller’s Description:1995 Mercedes Benz E320 Cabriolet- Black with Parchment Leather, 30,800 miles,excellent condition, non smoker, needs nothing, One of the lowest mileage E320 Cabriolet's in the country!!!
    Price: $24,500 obo

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    And then there is this one, at $49,500
    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...0/1972470.html
    6,420 original miles

    Location: Coto de Caza, California, 92679
    VIN #: WDBEA66E1SC253062
    Condition: Mint
    Exterior: Red
    Interior: Tan

    Seller’s Description: 1995 Mercedes Benz E320 Convertible. 6,420 original miles and in mint condition. This maybe the lowest original mile out there. Stunning Imperial Red exterior with Oyster leather interior. Original Soft top is black and mint. Absolutely stunning! Must see! $49,500 For additional information please inquire. 949-939-1262
    Price: $49,500 Obo
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenstevensteven View Post
    And then there is this one, 6,420 original miles...

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    Diggin the driveway of the Imperial Red and that would be my preference of the 2 only due to mileage but that price hurts. Also I would ask if either has windscreen.

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    I wonder if they'd go to low 30's on that Red one. On the other hand, it's so nice, I might be afraid to take it out of the garage.

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    The red one is 300+ miles lower than the black one (see post #22 above) , and cheaper too!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Merced...0/162889740893


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    these prices are thru the roof. geesh

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    my god. The red is a real eye catcher. But that black on black...

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    Thoughts on A124 versus R129? Having two W124s, I am learning towards R129 but do like A124s and as others mentioned, they are becoming rare....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    The red one is 300+ miles lower than this black one, and cheaper too!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Merced...0/162889740893

    I believe thats the same car I referred to in a thread way earlier.

    I brought up the driveway cuz you can generally tell a lot about the stewardship by the condition of the house and yard and also why I suggested asking if they have windscreen it would show their attention to detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spruce500e View Post
    I believe thats the same car I referred to in a thread way earlier.
    Yup, it sure is... edited previous post.


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    This is an interesting restoration. Much better price
    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...0/1934565.html

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    Location: Macon, Georgia, 31204
    VIN #: wdbea66e3rc056646
    Mileage: 75200
    Transmission: Auto
    Condition: Mint
    Exterior: White 149
    Interior: Blue

    Seller’s Description: Rare 94 E320 Convertible, excellent (or better) everywhere. Only 6323 of these cars sold over a three year period, and this one is the update model with nicer lights, grille, etc. Note some refreshed pictures, recently taken at the Peachtree Regional Concours, where this car finished in FIRST place in the Early Street Modern Category. 40+ year MB enthusiast, second generation concours participant and judge, lifelong MBCA member.

    I found this car sitting dormant in a local Doctor's garage, dirty and untouched for years. Sold new at our local MB store on 2/02 of 1994, I have taken the last 18 months or so to get everything just right, clean and as it should be. I have spent thousands of dollars on all systems, including: new Happich soft top in rare blue, as well as liner and ALL hydrolock latches replaced, new Blue MB leather from Germany on front seats and armrest, large service about 300 mles ago, as well as new front pads, rotors and sensors--(Update, just replaced rear pads, rotors, and sensors too), cylinder head gasket job to fix those aggravating oil leaks (an absolute must on these cars, they all do it), new AC compressor, drier and e-valve (cold and in the right locations) re-worked seat belt presenters that work perfectly, New Michelins about 600 miles ago and alignment, as well as a new 02 sensor (was original!) and a cleaning of the intake tube. She starts on the first twistt and runs and revs nicely. We also just refurbed the rollbar/top controller as a precaution (they frequently fail on these cars, and the Factory DOES NOT have ANY). I have also replaced numerous trim and cosmetic parts, including new hood pad and battery. I also noticed that the belt was a little noisy, so recently installed a new belt and belt tensioner. Everything works and works as it should. She has been cut and buffed to a beautiful shine, interior looks great as well. Factory radio and correct antenna, proper jack, spare and tools. Fresh battery, books/pouch, three MB keys too. Door cards, carpet, glass, and dash are very near perfect. Touched up and gone over by our best local guys, and I'm glad for you to speak with my tech about all the time and money we have spent on her.

    MB geeks know that this is one of the fastest appreciating Benzes. If you'll email me, I'll send you a copy of the Hagerty Valuation sheet. You will see this is a good value, in this condition, with these miles. Most of these cars are too tired to take on, but this car is a pleasure to drive, while you watch your investment make sense. Check me out at www.encoremacon.com, nearly 37 years in business, and I play by the Golden Rule. I am just south of ATL Hartsfield airport, and can help with travel, transport, inspection, etc. I will do my best to ensure no headaches and a fun experience. Title in hand and deep references.

    Sure you can buy a cheap one. But why would you? Ask the sellers of the other cars--is the top and liner new? Is the AC up to par? How about the hydrolocks on the top? When did it have a cylinder head job? New Michelins? Books, three original keys? The car you save $5k on today will be the one you are spending $7k on in a couple of months. And it still won't be this desirable color combo, have these miles, or be this nice. Call me, glad to chat with you, provide references, more pix, etc. Honest beautiful car and seller, and very fairly priced....good combination!

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    neat! although I don't know how I feel about the blue interior. Also no bun warmers, which I assume would be reaaaaal nice in a cabrio.

    Did all cabs come with the sportline steering wheel? Or is this one special?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a777fan View Post
    Did all cabs come with the sportline steering wheel? Or is this one special?
    No and no. This car, per the VIN/datacard, does not have the optional Sportline package. Someone installed that wheel separately, which is a nice upgrade IMO, but it isn't original.

    https://www.datamb.com/vin/qrogOm27yYvd8DNRl

    The white car looks like quite a deal with all the $$$ recently invested.


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    That white one is twin brother to my cab.
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    You have quite a variety of examples here.
    The question I think you have to answer is "what do I want to do with this car?"
    Am I a collector that will hold it for a long period and do I have the abilities/facilities to do that?
    Am I an enthusiast that just wants it to drive periodically and maintain until I decide I want something else?
    Am I getting it for daily use?

    The red car doesn't make sense unless you are a collector and that is the condition you want. You can't buy a lessor car and bring it to that state for less money and
    even if you could it wouldn't be original, therefore worth less.

    The white car may be a good candidate for the enthusiast/driver categories, but not for collector status. For example, he has replaced the front seat leather, therefore it
    won't match the rear seats. The top is replaced, etc.

    I am a small time collector, so I have and probably in the future will pay up for an example like the red car, but that doesn't make sense for an enthusiast/driver situation.
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    The 6kmi / $60k examples are collector toys, not to be driven.

    The white car with all the mechanical work done would be a really nice weekend cruiser.

    Ideally, just buy all of them and find room in the climate-controlled hanger for storage.


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    An interesting question for this forum would be if the 6K cars were 036s, what would be the asking price?

    Maybe debunk the old "4 doors aren't collectible" argument....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    You have quite a variety of examples here.
    The question I think you have to answer is "what do I want to do with this car?"
    Am I a collector that will hold it for a long period and do I have the abilities/facilities to do that?
    Am I an enthusiast that just wants it to drive periodically and maintain until I decide I want something else?
    Am I getting it for daily use?

    The red car doesn't make sense unless you are a collector and that is the condition you want. You can't buy a lessor car and bring it to that state for less money and
    even if you could it wouldn't be original, therefore worth less.

    The white car may be a good candidate for the enthusiast/driver categories, but not for collector status. For example, he has replaced the front seat leather, therefore it
    won't match the rear seats. The top is replaced, etc.

    I am a small time collector, so I have and probably in the future will pay up for an example like the red car, but that doesn't make sense for an enthusiast/driver situation.
    Once I buy it, I have no intention of selling. I want something I can keep until I'm below ground (in mid-50's now)
    Looking for something that I can drive 50/50, sharing with my low mileage e320 sedan (probably drive under 10K miles total per year now, maybe 8k)
    Not looking for a DIY project. Need something clean, with the maintenance kept up with.
    I think I'd go into the high $30k's if I have to in order to get something nice.
    Driving my new '95 e320 with only 40K miles is a dream. Would love to have something of similar quality in a Cabrio.

    Perhaps I'm in the Enthusiast category who is willing to pay at the higher end. I'll expect to put 3-4K miles on the car per year. I want something I can drive, and something I can enjoy while driving.

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    I'd buy this at $40K, but not the $59K starting bid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenstevensteven View Post
    What do u think ?

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...0/2065246.html

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    Location: Old Lyme, Connecticut, 06371
    VIN #: WDBEA66E0SC211577
    Mileage: 30828
    Transmission: Auto
    Condition: Excellent
    Exterior: Black
    Interior: Parchment

    Seller’s Description:1995 Mercedes Benz E320 Cabriolet- Black with Parchment Leather, 30,800 miles,excellent condition, non smoker, needs nothing, One of the lowest mileage E320 Cabriolet's in the country!!!
    Price: $24,500 obo
    This might be the best compromise for me. I've contacted owner, and we're going to try and talk this wkend. Any suggestions for questions that I should ask?

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    Here's another for your consideration. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/c...495202585.html

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    92 500e 180,000+ miles
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    92 500e 110,000 miles sold

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    This one doesn't meet your criteria but thought i would post it up anyway. I really like the black over beige / parchment on these. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/c...487568376.html

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    92 500e 180,000+ miles
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    92 500e 110,000 miles sold

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    Here's another for your consideration. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/c...495202585.html

    drew
    I would consider this one, with 70K miles. DS seat and arm rest need restoration. Also, would probably put original Becker radio back in.

    1995 Mercedes-Benz E320 Cabriolet. Beautiful 2 owner Florida car, with wonderful service history and LOW MILEAGE - just hit 70,000 miles. 1 of 3000 made for the U.S. and total production of 6,343. Hand built for over two years - 1994 and 1995. The most expensive Mercedes 4 passenger collectible car, listed at $85,000+. Original example in Champagne over Tan with Brown Soft Top. Features; original leather, heated seats, books, 2 keys. Interior wood and Leather is in excellent condition. No Accidents, and has never been smoked in. Also has Service records/History of total hydraulic system for convertible top, Transmission, etc. New Michelins, with Spare - spare has never touched the ground. These collectibles are valued anywhere from $20,000 to $30,000 - buy today for a great price. PLEASE CALL FOR MORE INFORMATION AND TO SET UP APPOINTMENT.

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