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    1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    I've been giddy like a school kid ever since last night when I discovered a completely stock 1992 ASR-equipped 400E has ended up in my local pick & pull. It's been YEARS since I last got my hands on a W124 out here in the Hinterlands. I was able to briefly check it out today & get its VIN just before the yard closed for the weekend. It is a quite interesting, loaded combination of (Paint 1) IMPALA BROWN METALLIC 441U, (Paint 5) 65 , (Interior) LEATHER - BEIGE 265 with Burred Walnut Root Wood Trim 731 & Sound System 757/810 with a Silverstone. Also Change of Model Year 802.

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    It's a shame this 400E has been junked. I'll have to inquire if there's any pertinent info pertaining to its terminal cause of death.

    The NA-style headlights with wipers and pneumatic lock control box are gone, but most everything else is still there. To ensure first crack at everything I want, I'll be at the pick & pull''s front door when it opens on Monday …and I've got my list compiled. There's also a transmission discount promotion in effect, so I may even go for that.

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    Winter be Damned. This should be FUN!

    I'll take some pics.
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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    I am interested in 265 interior bits if you are so inclined.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    I am interested in 265 interior bits if you are so inclined.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    PM sent.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    I've been giddy like a school kid ever since last night when I discovered a completely stock 1992 ASR-equipped 400E has ended up in my local pick & pull. It's been YEARS since I last got my hands on a W124 out here in the Hinterlands. I was able to briefly check it out today & get its VIN just before the yard closed for the weekend. It is a quite interesting, loaded combination of (Paint 1) IMPALA BROWN METALLIC 441U, (Paint 5) 65 , (Interior) LEATHER - BEIGE 265 with Burred Walnut Root Wood Trim 731 & Sound System 757/810 with a Silverstone. Also Change of Model Year 802.

    It's a shame this 400E has been junked. I'll have to inquire if there's any pertinent info pertaining to its terminal cause of death.

    The NA-style headlights with wipers are gone, but most everything else is still there. To ensure first crack at everything I want, I'll be at the pick & pull''s front door when it opens on Monday …and I've got my list compiled. There's also a transmission discount promotion in effect, so I may even go for that.

    Winter be Damned. This should be FUN!

    I'll take pics.
    Make sure you get the valve body and transmission and exhaust support brackets. All computers, EZL, instrument cluster, HVAC controls, all CAN computers and relays at the back of the fuse box. Wood, if good enough. Taillights. ETA. Wiring harness(es) if replaced. A fair bit of good stuff to have.

    One thing you could do, would be to see if you could buy the whole car, then mine it for V-8 goodness on your own time.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    A couple months ago I was in a similar situation, and found a 1993 300e that had not yet been touched at the local Pick n Pull. That was really fun. Let's just say I'm well stocked now, at least for my m103.

    Good luck on Monday.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenstevensteven View Post
    A couple months ago I was in a similar situation, and found a 1993 300e that had not yet been touched at the local Pick n Pull. That was really fun. Let's just say I'm well stocked now, at least for my m103.

    Good luck on Monday.
    Wouldn't a 1993 model year 300E, actually be an M104 engine? That should have been the first model year that the M104 was used in the 124 for the US market.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Wouldn't a 1993 model year 300E, actually be an M104 engine? That should have been the first model year that the M104 was used in the 124 for the US market.
    Yes - unless it was a 1993 300TE 4MATIC, which was the exception.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Yes - unless it was a 1993 300TE 4MATIC, which was the exception.
    He said 300E, not 300TE or "4MATIC wagon" .....

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    PM'ed for ASR, E-GAS and speedo.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    He said 300E, not 300TE or "4MATIC wagon" .....
    I know. But I was assuming since M103 was mentioned, it could have been a typo.


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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Wouldn't a 1993 model year 300E, actually be an M104 engine? That should have been the first model year that the M104 was used in the 124 for the US market.
    It was definitely a 300E. I guess I got the year wrong. Honestly, I wasn't really paying that close attention once I realized that it was an m103 that had only arrived the day before and had not yet been touched.

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    CHANGE YOUR HOSES PROACTIVELY!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    ...It's a shame this 400E has been junked. I'll have to inquire if there's any pertinent info pertaining to its terminal cause of death.
    Well..., I learned a few things about this car on Monday. Prior to entering the yard, a front office man told me the 400E's demise was attributed to engine failure. The condition of the transmission was unknown because they could not run the car for testing. I figured I might be able to further pinpoint the cause upon my upcoming scrutiny of the car. I have planned on spending some serious quality time with this "Little Brother" because I never know when I may ever see one again!

    This 1992 car is otherwise in quite good overall shape. It only had 98k miles.

    92_400E_Instrument_Cluster.jpeg

    The overall body & paint condition is very nice. It's a pleasing color. Trimwork is bright. The right front fender wheel arch exhibits some rash from perhaps a close parking lot encounter. Some paint chipping on left front wheel well. Any noticeable rust is mostly relegated to the undercarriage surfaces of the exhaust line & diff/axle tubes.

    The car's State Inspection was valid thru March 2018. This was a professional's car. By the looks of things, a Telecom road warrior consultant whose office was in the 400E. I also discovered it was a local car, but I had never seen it before. I surmised the owner planned on keeping this car for a while. The stock rims are fine. The tires have plenty of rubber & could be transferred to another car for plenty of service miles.

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    Winter be Damned. This should be FUN! .
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    I've got to keep my mouth shut. The most recent Noreaster's offcast hit Tuesday. I stayed home. It made itself known to a somewhat lesser extent today (Wednesday). The less-determined competition would stay home today. I dressed appropriately. Off I went to continue working my list. It was exhausting, but still fun.

    I think I discovered this 400E died from a cataclysmic failure.

    It must have been painful if the owner loved this 400E.

    Engine failure? I'll double-check next visit when I assess the transmission, but by quick glance it appears that HOSE A0189975682 FROM TRANSMISSION TO OIL COOLER,LEFT failed where metal tube crimping meets rubber hose. It severed & dumped. I'll know more later, but that hasn't affected me at all yet. Lots of dark fluid smeared all over the engine left side (I'll try for a pic next time, but there was a bit of a blizzard going on today).

    Anyway, the bottom-line is PROACTIVELY RENEW ALL OF YOUR CRITICAL HOSES SOONER THAN LATER. You won't want your car, or "investment", to end up this way.


    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    One thing you could do, would be to see if you could buy the whole car, then mine it for V-8 goodness on your own time.
    State Law here prohibits the sale of a junked car once it goes inside the yard. Ya gotta mine it while you can.

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    Re: CHANGE YOUR HOSES PROACTIVELY!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    by quick glance it appears that HOSE A0189975682 FROM TRANSMISSION TO OIL COOLER,LEFT failed where metal tube crimping meets rubber hose. It severed & dumped.
    Any chance the hose was cut by the yard staff to fully drain the fluids?


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    Turn Right at the SmartCar...

    Somebody must've done something really Dumb to kill the SmartCar. There is absolutely no visible body damage...

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    I must say it is the first time I have ever seen one of these in a junkyard.
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    300D(erelict)

    Oh, the tales of high & woe this not-too battle-scarred blue on blue 300D would tell if only it could...

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    Injector system is completely intact.
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    Smartphone to the rescue

    I haven't pulled a radio from a W124 in a lonnnnng time. This car's Becker 1432 appears beautiful & I'm getting it. It's on my list. I've got the tools. Insert tools & pull. Easy.

    Well..., I managed to get the faceplate off easily. The rest of the radio was quite happy to remain where it was. So I kept trying, unsuccessfully. Then I decided it was time for a timeout before I get ham-fisted & f*ck this nice specimen up...

    Epiphany. Duh, Reverify the removal procedure via the godd*mned smartphone!

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    All that piano practice as a kid came in handy. With some controlled contortion, my fingers went into simultaneous multitask mode & out came the Becker.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    The steering wheel is in nice shape, albeit a little dusty like everything else. My 500E wheel is burlwood.

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    The junkyard sells steering wheels without air bag. State law prohibits air bags from leaving the junkyard.
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    Battery Box

    I couldn't help but think of our Norwegian brethren as I checked out this car's battery box. A bit dusty, but completely solid & intact. There's another interesting feature in this 400E. Web strapping bolted to each end of the battery platform. What's up with that?

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    This feature is Not part of my 500E. The box configuration may be slightly different between the two models. I don't even think the strap boltholes exist in the 500E.

    I took the strap anyway .

    I might cut the box out, too, if I can get around to it with proper equipment.
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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Yep! My 420 has the strap. How do you 500 guys hold on to your battery???


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    Re: Battery Box

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    I couldn't help but think of our Norwegian brethren as I checked out this car's battery box...
    Screw the strap, what's up with the dead body stashed in the spare tire well?

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    Re: CHANGE YOUR HOSES PROACTIVELY!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Any chance the hose was cut by the yard staff to fully drain the fluids?
    Ya know, I was thinking about that last night after I posted. But while underneath the car (soaking those pesky exhaust to tranny bracket fasteners with power lube), I did see one of those red plastic quick-plugs in the tranny pan. Strange. I figured maybe it was drained that way (& then replugged for some reason?). A bit of an enigma. So IDK, it could be anything. I'll have a better idea of the tranny's true condition when I drop its pan (unless someone gets to it before me).

    However, its actual demise does not belay the fact to CHANGE YOUR HOSES PROACTIVELY!!

    Another strange first...I was taking in some of those nasty "stale gas" fumes while operating around the open trunk area & wondered where the hell the fumes were coming from? Lo & behold when I stepped back & took a good look at the gas tank..it was punctured in 4 or 5 places with holes the size of a 12 ga shotgun slug. Never seen anything like that before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwontumspeed View Post
    Screw the strap, what's up with the dead body stashed in the spare tire well?
    Just a Puma sneaker. Its mate was in the rear seating area. It appears the owner spent a lot of time in/with the car. Stuff strewn all over. LOL. Still trying to get a good assessment of the carpet's true condition.
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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by a777fan View Post
    Yep! My 420 has the strap. How do you 500 guys hold on to your battery???
    End clamps on the base.
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    1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    End clamps on the base.
    Hmm. I guess we have that too. *shrug*

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Yep, a red plug means that the trans was drained quickly and then plugged. Not uncommon for the gas tank to be drained, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a777fan View Post
    Yep! My 420 has the strap. How do you 500 guys hold on to your battery???
    The 036 has a battery compartment that sits lower, and has a flip-top cover which is level with the trunk carpet. No strap. The 034 battery sits higher and has the extra strap, although I'm not sure why the strap is present, the bottom metal clamp is the same on both chassis.


    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    Another strange first...I was taking in some of those nasty "old gas" fumes while operating around the open trunk area & wondered where the hell the fumes were coming from? Lo & behold when I stepped back & took a good look at the gas tank..it was punctured in 4 or 5 places with holes the size of a 12 ga slug. Never seen anything like that before!
    California Pick-n-Pulls destroy gas tanks by puncturing them multiple times. I don't know if there is some weird state law, or if it's the yard's policy to not sell gas tanks. Sounds like your yard does the same thing. Idaho yards don't do this, btw.


    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Yep, a red plug means that the trans was drained quickly and then plugged. Not uncommon for the gas tank to be drained, too.
    Most yards drain ALL fluids before it goes out to the vultures. Can't allow toxic fluids to drain on the ground, yadda x3. Punching a hole in the trans pan (and oil pan) is common because they are too lazy to open drain plugs.


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    Pick & Pull Std Op Procedure

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Most yards drain ALL fluids before it goes out to the vultures. Can't allow toxic fluids to drain on the ground, yadda x3. Punching a hole in the trans pan (and oil pan) is common because they are too lazy to open drain plugs.
    I knew they drained the fluids, removed cats & batteries, but I guess I never payed attention or noticed much of the gritty details until now. The W124's vertical tank location makes for easy visibility ( & a stinky trunk).
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    Re: Battery Box

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    I couldn't help but think of our Norwegian brethren as I checked out this car's battery box.
    Indeed!


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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    "Dammit!" It was snowing again when I woke up this morning. More of the white stuff had accumulated overnight while I was dreaming of car parts & removal strategies. "I don't care, I'm going back".

    I bushwhacked a fresh trail back thru the powder to the 400E. It was unmolested since I last left it. I've really grown fond of the 441U paint. I think a 500E sporting monoblocks would look fabulous in this same color scheme.

    I had to make the most of my available time today. I had a prioritized list, a plan, & the tool strategy to make the most of it.

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    My best friend today besides my clothing choice was the DeWalt 20v Cordless driver & bit assortment. It helped make very short work of several dismantlings. I had fun timing myself on some jobs. I would wrap up most of the removed parts in zip locks or plastic bags & place them in the trunk for temporary storage until it was time to leave.

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    A couple jobs had to be bypassed til next time. Not all of those pesky exhaust to tranny bracket fasteners were ready to give yet, so I doused them some more with penetrant. Also, some jack*ss evidently used RTV on the cam covers cuz they weren't giving it up, either. Metallic cam oilers reside inside & the left cover sports a perfectly flat & beautiful warning decal.

    I had also previously set up a junk "wind breaker" to deflect both the wind & snow. It kept snow from accumulating under the car & leftover fluids from blowing back all over me while I was underneath working.

    Made a good haul today. Felt like a pirate of the Klondike. I'll update the list, the required tools & plan on going back again while the gettin' is still good.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    "Dammit!" ... , some jack*ss evidently used RTV on the cam covers cuz they weren't giving it up, either. Metallic cam oilers reside inside & the left cover sports a perfectly flat & beautiful warning decal.
    Any mechanic who applies adhesive sealant (i.e., RTV) to M119 valve cover gaskets is a special kind of stupid. I've had to deal with that more than once. You can get the covers off, but if you plan to re-use them, be prepared to spend a lot of time carefully scraping off all remnants of the RTV. Takes an hour or two per side.


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    Re: Battery Box

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    I couldn't help but think of our Norwegian brethren as I checked out this car's battery box. A bit dusty, but completely solid & intact. There's another interesting feature in this 400E. Web strapping bolted to each end of the battery platform. What's up with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Indeed!


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    Thanks, Gerry! Norge is still waiting for your visit, with extensive hooning in the streets, and free beer & moonshine on the wine list.


    As for that battery strap; IIRC the 400E/E420 uses the regular size W124 body panel housing the battery compartment. Hence it is not wide enough in the bottom so the battery sits a bit higher. The only protection for the battery is that fabric cover/lining, so in case a heavy object slides in the trunk during driving it may hit the battery. So that strap is an additional security. I may be wrong of course.
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    Any mechanic who applies adhesive sealant (i.e., RTV) to M119 valve cover gaskets is a special kind of stupid. I've had to deal with that more than once.

    LOL! All of your past comments on this subject flew thru my mind while I was dealing with the covers, i.e., "Ahh...so THIS is what gsxr means"!
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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    "My name is DerF, and I'm a Mercedes W124 V8-aholic…" [Hi, DerF…]
    "…and I confess…, I get a bit hysterical when I find Mercedes W124 V8s in local scrapyards. "

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    Ok…, now that I've calmed down a bit, let's revisit why this 1992 400E is here. The condition codes written on the car's right rear fender state that the engine is No Good (M - NG) and the Transmission Could Not Test (T - D).

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    I recently entered into both the engine & transmission & can see no readily apparent clues to any failure. Innards & remaining fluids looked normal and clean.

    But I have discovered that the upper, lower & ETA engine compartment harnesses all show 1991 manufacture dates. All look real nice & normal on the outside, but we can only speculate what lurks inside (probably not worth the time pulling them, unless to provide rebuildable cores).

    Perhaps the cumulative bio-wire Gremlins are the true reason the owner threw in the towel on this 400E. Who knows?

    Anyway, I'm not speculating anymore. I've got mining to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Any mechanic who applies adhesive sealant (i.e., RTV) to M119 valve cover gaskets is a special kind of stupid. I've had to deal with that more than once.
    Oh, another of my weaker moments deserving confession because of this affliction...I tossed & turned trying to rationalize this frustrating cover malaise. I removed 8 bolts....wait a second, the cover has nine!

    Yup. No RTV. No special kind of stupid besides giddy little me. I overlooked the one sneaky bolt lurking under the plug wire tray. Amazing how simple a cover can be removed when all of its fasteners are removed, too!

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    Legendary martial artist Bruce Lee's philosophy was to be like water when facing adversity. I always remembered that statement. I also know that the grains of sand which together form into beaches were once great, formidable, monolithic edifices of stone facing the water.

    Waves of water persistently & incessantly lapped against the stone cliffs. Sometimes softly & sometimes violently, but always consistently, with sheer willpower & the enduring patience of Job…until the stone was beaten down into submission, reduced into the beaches of today.

    I use that philosophy in many aspects of my life. I most recently used it to break the will of those pesky exhaust to transmission bracket fasteners. They were very formidable adversaries; seemingly taunting me at times. Successfully removing this bracket thus became a personal matter of principle.

    It was a multi-day process of persistently & consistently soaking with penetrant, smartly tapping with a hammer, & then using rugged box-end wrenches, 6 point sockets on long strong breaker bars & ratchets...all while performed in a Winter-time scrapyard under a car less than 2 feet off the ground.

    Such is the intoxicating allure of mining Unobtanium & its derivatives.

    Bracket 124 492 46 41 has been successfully liberated intact…a bit crusty on its surface, but very solid. It will clean up nicely.

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    Seeing resistance was futile, the valve body & solenoid valve assembly surrendered without incident.
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    I am interested in 265 interior bits if you are so inclined.

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    Here's a couple pics just incase your current project doesn't pan out. Real nice condition. Clean.

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    The headliner isn't even sagging!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    The headliner isn't even sagging!!

    It's near-immaculate.

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    Interior does look very nice. I learned recently that removal of the headliner without damage is quite a job. I had envisioned a single covered hardboard when in fact the areas adjacent to the sunroof are just fabric. I also noted the C pillar covers on the 034 do not have the reading lights although i suspect they could be easily modified to accept them. IMO, worth taking as any good C pillar in 265 is preferable to one with broken tabs. Same goes for B pillar covers. The cloth covered door opening moldings are 265 specific and easily harvested. Also, the plastic window frame surrounds are easily removed but fragile after 25 years of service. I don't know your exact location but no doubt you are battling the newest Noreaster. You deserve some sort of badge of merit here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    ...You deserve some sort of badge of merit here.
    There are certain self-rewards involved at the end of a good day...

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    Radiator Grille Shell Assembly

    I'm astounded at how nice this piece is after removal (using my own "HW TO" info). There are no dents, chips or damage to the shell or grille.

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    The vertical garnish moulding has two dents. One of the transverse mouldings has a nearly imperceptible dent. These are original design mouldings & worth saving. I believe I'll break out some jewelers tools & attempt to carefully restore them.

    The Star ornament was of course gone, but its remaining base was also of the early design & a PITA to remove.

    There is absolutely no rust or crust on the shell backside. It is extremely clean. I guess 98k miles weren't enough to dirty this up too much. There's always a possibility that this is a replacement shell, but if so, I say it's OEM because the fit to hood was perfect & its attachments are all of the style one would expect on a MY92.

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    I'm gonna have a tough time deciding whether to part this out or keep for myself as a backup.
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    I thought Dan had dibs on the grille...? Or are you just teasing him with how nice it is?


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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    If it is OEM, there should be a little embossed star on the bottom either to the left or the right (depending on your perspective) of the Phillips head screw. At least that is how it is on the W201 and W202 which bookend the W124 production.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntrepid View Post
    If it is OEM, there should be a little embossed star on the bottom either to the left or the right (depending on your perspective) of the Phillips head screw.
    You are correct. There is & It is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    I thought Dan had dibs on the grille...? Or are you just teasing him with how nice it is?
    Those pics are posted in his WTB thread.
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    Re: Radiator Grille Shell Assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFuror View Post
    The vertical garnish moulding has two dents. One of the transverse mouldings has a nearly imperceptible dent. These are original design mouldings & worth saving. I believe I'll break out some jewelers tools & attempt to carefully restore them.
    I had good results doing the same to a spare recently however the finish is bad. The price on just the vertical strip from the Classic Center is $60. and change.

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    Interior does look very nice. I learned recently that removal of the headliner without damage is quite a job. I had envisioned a single covered hardboard when in fact the areas adjacent to the sunroof are just fabric. I also noted the C pillar covers on the 034 do not have the reading lights although i suspect they could be easily modified to accept them. IMO, worth taking as any good C pillar in 265 is preferable to one with broken tabs. Same goes for B pillar covers. The cloth covered door opening moldings are 265 specific and easily harvested. Also, the plastic window frame surrounds are easily removed but fragile after 25 years of service. I don't know your exact location but no doubt you are battling the newest Noreaster. You deserve some sort of badge of merit here.

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    Drew - take a look at member doolar's owners thread, post #37 and #41:
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    I also noted the C pillar covers on the 034 do not have the reading lights although i suspect they could be easily modified to accept them.
    Quote Originally Posted by 500AMM View Post
    Drew - take a look at member doolar's owners thread, post #37 and #41:
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    Yes, the pillar shells have a perforated feature on the backside for removal to accommodate the reading light assemblies.
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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    All this expectation, anticipation and teasing makes me wonder if this isn't a time when gleitpaste might come in useful?

    This 400E pick and pull blog must the closest thing to sexual gratification one might find on the 500eBoard!

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    This 400E pick and pull blog must the closest thing to sexual gratification one might find on the 500eBoard!
    I dunno ... something about the rush of NOS putting you in your seat that feels pretty good...

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

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    Drew - take a look at member doolar's owners thread, post #37 and #41:
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    Thanks, Arnt. I don't know how i missed that thread. All kinds of useful information there.

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    More blissful mining

    It's been a great OE haul so far. And each time when I return to mining after some time off, I find that no claim-jumpers have pilfered the 400E (or if any have, nothing I'm interested in appears to have been lifted or destroyed yet).

    The weatherstrip seals for all four doors were retrieved without issue. They're in such nice condition, feeling as if recently installed.

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    Both coils were retrieved. The coils are mounted in a b*tch of a location, however someone was nice enough to previously remove the headlight assembly for me to provide access. Even with access, patience is required to remove the mounting bolts.

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    I am after the audio system harness wiring. I am literally systematically dismantling the dash layer by layer to get to it. While on this mission, all three air vents & their bulbs were retrieved. There is a LOT of steps required to get that center vent out properly. Two pods were obtained so far. The white one is the easiest to remove; it pulls straight out. However it takes the "monkey grip" of King Kong to turn & release the pink pod. I'll have proper tools for the next pods I encounter. After several unsuccessful tries, I ended up carefully severing its retaining ring to free it. It put up such a good fight, I vowed I'll bring the proper tools next time & get all of its siblings just for personal satisfaction.

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    The CAN box cover was an easy afterthought. It was removed early-on to get all the modules contained within & I set it aside for a few days. Then the thought of some hooligan tossing it like a Frisbee into scrapyard oblivion made me take it. It was too pretty for despoiling.

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    The complete airbox assembly was another item set aside in the trunk for a while which finally came home too because of its degree of unobtainiumness. A bit dusty, but near perfect. It had one missing hold down clamp that was rectified with an extra I had in my spares bin. No dings, scrapes, scratches or silver paint missing from the Star. Even the original design air snorkels are in quite good shape. They remind me of the sleeves of my leather motorcycle jacket. I usually comment about these snorkels/hoses being "clapped out" in For Sale car pics. Surprisingly not so here.

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    Whew!, I'm getting a good workout (& tired of typing). I figure by Summer, with all this hands-on experience, maybe Captruff might sponsor me thru the Smog Air Fund to come out to L.A. & dismantle W124s for a month or so?...Just like finding a nice donor W124 V8, ya never know...
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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Derf, the pink vac pods have a plastic tab that needs to be pressed in slightly before they will twist out. Once you press in the tabby, removal should be relatively easy. I am curious though, why are you interested in a 1432 stereo harness? I could see wanting a 1492 (from a 1994-95 W124 sedan) to retrofit in a 1991-1993 model, but unless a PO hacked up the stock harness, ugh that's a lot of work to remove! Need to pull all the seats and the main carpet.

    BTW - is the fan clutch original Sachs/Horton, and in decent shape? I don't need one, but I know someone who might...


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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    I'll study the pod part I have, but such a tight location, I couldn't get any tab anywhere to cooperate on this maiden removal...so I said, "When in doubt, carefully cut it out"!

    Re: Audio Wiring...I'm going back to original. The 1432 came with the car. Some of the ends of mine are snipped. I don't remember how much is missing so I won't fall short with as much as possible of the donor's. Plus, it gives me good practice removing everything else in the way!

    I'll check on the fan clutch. I'm sure its OE. Everything else on this sweet donor car is. The radiator will probably being coming home to poppa, too.

    Too bad I never knew if the car was put up for sale before ending up here. It would have been so convenient to have purchased & stashed it away for my leisure.
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    Make sure you get that NLA all-black pod. You ought to be able to sell that for $500 if in good working condition, if it holds vacuum, and you don't want to keep it for your spares collection.

    As with jlaa and RicardoD, it seems you have caught the parts hoarding disease.

    After you purchase your C126, and join the DarkCISide, your transformation will be complete !!

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    Re: 1992 400E Pick & Pull Bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    BTW - is the fan clutch original Sachs/Horton, and in decent shape? I don't need one, but I know someone who might...
    I'm sorry to say, but I'd trust a wrecking-yard fan clutch (unless shiny bright/new) about as much as I'd trust a wrecking-yard EHA for a DarkCISide car.....99% guaranteed to be faulty and not to work.

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    Vac Pods

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Make sure you get that NLA all-black pod. You ought to be able to sell that for $500 if in good working condition, if it holds vacuum, and you don't want to keep it for your spares collection.
    This all-black pod?

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    If what you say is true, Somebody offers me $500, it's theirs.

    Or the little all-black pod? I've rescued them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Derf, the pink vac pods have a plastic tab that needs to be pressed in slightly before they will twist out. Once you press in the tabby, removal should be relatively easy.
    I agree. I was able to find & access the tabs on the remaining pods. Those pods are definitely tightly packed right into the overall assembly. Patience is the key to removal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    ..., but unless a PO hacked up the stock harness, ugh that's a lot of work to remove!
    You are not just whistling Dixie! I believe I removed more than enough to logically cover any length the moron snipped away. I cut off the ancillaries where the wiring would meet major trunk lines. I then took pics & tagged the ends so I would know which direction & which side the lines ran. Then I coiled them up & bagged them in a big zip lock so they wouldn't get screwed up during transport.

    I should be good now. Time will tell.
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    Parts Hoarding

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    ..., it seems you have caught the parts hoarding disease.
    No. This is just a unique opportunity I'm trying to take full advantage of (this car is the only V8 W124 I've ever encountered in this junkyard). I'm collecting anything my 500E needs, or any cosmetically better replacements. I'm also making sure I have critical component backups. I get to remove a lot of stuff, which makes for good practice when it comes to next time, or for when I actually perform similar ops on my car in the future.

    Anything else I bring home will be put up for sale.
    " Destination ???, It's the ride that takes you there! "
    1993 500E W124.036 040/271
    1965 220b W111.010 Heckflosse

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