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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Some numbers there's logic, others no discernable logic.

    I think the 201 number was used to denote a significant departure in strategy, given that the 201 was the "Baby Benz" and a totally new class of car that MB had not done before. It was a "stake in the ground" new chassis number for MB, considering that most everything on the passenger car side had done 1XX numbers since......forever.

    Others more recently with the 200 chassis numbers were simply because MB had largely run out of 1XX numbers over the years, and to leave more runway for existing models (such as the follow-on 171 and 172 models and beyond for the SLK R170 series, for example).

    Also, MB has in recent generations gone much more sequentially and rationalized things more logically than they had before ... 220, 221, 222, 223..... 210, 211, 212, 213......201, 202, 203, 204, 205.......

    22X being S-class
    21X being E-class
    20X being C-class

    Of course there are things like the 215/216 S-class coupes, the CLSs thrown in there, 208 C-class coupes, etc.

    And then the Mack-daddy of all....the 463, which has been the same since......1990.

    Go figure.

    Cheers,
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    P.S. The thing I lament the most, is that MB is putting big round fat stars in the middle of the grills of nearly all of their models these days. It used to be reserved for the "sport" models like the Gullwing, Pagoda, 107, 126 coupe, and so forth. And G-wagens and trucks.

    You had a star in your stock grill? You were driving a sporty/roadster/Mack-Daddy model. You were truly Sporty Spice.

    No longer.

    Now practically everymodel has a nice round star in the grill, to go along with the AMG badgineering/displacement badgeflation.

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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by a777fan View Post
    While we're at this naming convention discussion, and have Herr Klink's attention...

    Does anyone have insight into how the MB model designations [chassis code numbers] are actually assigned? Sometimes it seems quite logical. For example W123 came before its replacement the W124. Other times it seems really random. W126 to W140. Or W124 to W210.

    And how is it that the smallest car they made in this period was given a 200 series number?? Completely out of sequence until the appearance of the W210 in 1995-96...?!?

    Color me baffled.
    We have always wondered that, and it was never explained. One of my recent favorite absurdities is how the CLS went backwards from 219 to 218, while the 217 is the current S-class coupe, and the new upcoming CLS is the 257...
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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    Some numbers there's logic, others no discernable logic.

    I think the 201 number was used to denote a significant departure in strategy, given that the 201 was the "Baby Benz" and a totally new class of car that MB had not done before. It was a "stake in the ground" new chassis number for MB, considering that most everything on the passenger car side had done 1XX numbers since......forever.

    Others more recently with the 200 chassis numbers were simply because MB had largely run out of 1XX numbers over the years, and to leave more runway for existing models (such as the follow-on 171 and 172 models and beyond for the SLK R170 series, for example).

    Also, MB has in recent generations gone much more sequentially and rationalized things more logically than they had before ... 220, 221, 222, 223..... 210, 211, 212, 213......201, 202, 203, 204, 205.......

    22X being S-class
    21X being E-class
    20X being C-class

    Of course there are things like the 215/216 S-class coupes, the CLSs thrown in there, 208 C-class coupes, etc.

    And then the Mack-daddy of all....the 463, which has been the same since......1990.

    Go figure.

    Cheers,
    Gerry

    P.S. The thing I lament the most, is that MB is putting big round fat stars in the middle of the grills of nearly all of their models these days. It used to be reserved for the "sport" models like the Gullwing, Pagoda, 107, 126 coupe, and so forth. And G-wagens and trucks.

    You had a star in your stock grill? You were driving a sporty/roadster/Mack-Daddy model. You were truly Sporty Spice.

    No longer.

    Now practically everymodel has a nice round star in the grill, to go along with the AMG badgineering/displacement badgeflation.
    Indeed, the whole grill thing chaps my ass way more than the badge engineering, particularly because I think all badges should be removed, anyway...
    Putting the fun in dysfunction...

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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    The only one which is really logical..is the "C" class..first started of as the 190e w201,but followed as a w202, w203, w204, and the recent w205
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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Badges rule!
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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    The only one which is really logical..is the "C" class..first started of as the 190e w201,but followed as a w202, w203, w204, and the recent w205
    But even those aren’t so “logical” they just look that way. For example, the 203 C240 is in fact a 2.6L. The C230 Kompressor is a 1.8, but later, it was also sold here when somebody bitched/sued about it as a C230-1.8 Kompressor. Of the M272 V6 motor C-class cars, the 230 is a 2.5, and the 204 C300 with the 272 is a 2.8, while a 203 with that same motor actually IS badged as C280.

    Seriously, this stuff goes on forever and ever....
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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by gerryvz View Post
    P.S. The thing I lament the most, is that MB is putting big round fat stars in the middle of the grills of nearly all of their models these days. It used to be reserved for the "sport" models like the Gullwing, Pagoda, 107, 126 coupe, and so forth. And G-wagens and trucks.

    You had a star in your stock grill? You were driving a sporty/roadster/Mack-Daddy model. You were truly Sporty Spice.

    No longer.

    Now practically everymodel has a nice round star in the grill, to go along with the AMG badgineering/displacement badgeflation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    Indeed, the whole grill thing chaps my ass way more than the badge engineering, particularly because I think all badges should be removed, anyway...

    Ugh, and don't even get me started on those backlit ones. Talk about the ultimate tacky monstrosity. It is the absolute antithesis to what MB used to be. Understated class.

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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    One of my recent favorite absurdities is how the CLS went backwards from 219 to 218...
    Wait. They did WHAT? I don't follow the CLS, but I didn't realize it went full retro on the numbering system. Sounds like something Sporty Spice would have done, not an MB engineer.


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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Well....220 *was* already taken...


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    Re: FS: NOS 500E rear badge

    Who's on first.....
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    Re: FS: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    Who's on first.....
    Exactly!
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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by a777fan View Post
    Ugh, and don't even get me started on those backlit ones. Talk about the ultimate tacky monstrosity. It is the absolute antithesis to what MB used to be. Understated class.
    Now, you want to hear the funny part of that? Those were originally designed with an elaborate switching system so that they essentially only came on with the walk away/find me lighting. Imagine hitting the unlock button in the dark and having some lights come on about the car, and with things like opening and closing the doors after dark, etc.
    When the people that purchased them found out that’s how they worked, and that it took a couple or three hours to wire them up correctly, they went nucking futz! They wanted that thing shining like the sun 24/7/365. Then when they found out we had to spend all that time and money to make it work NOT how they wanted it to, well, that was not pretty...
    There is now a super simplified wiring for the USA market (and no doubt some others) where they simply glow their little hearts out as much as possible...
    More proof that money (or in most cases, indebtedness) CAN’T buy taste...
    Putting the fun in dysfunction...

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    Re: SOLD: NOS 500E rear badge

    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    Now, you want to hear the funny part of that? Those were originally designed with an elaborate switching system so that they essentially only came on with the walk away/find me lighting. Imagine hitting the unlock button in the dark and having some lights come on about the car, and with things like opening and closing the doors after dark, etc.
    When the people that purchased them found out that’s how they worked, and that it took a couple or three hours to wire them up correctly, they went nucking futz! They wanted that thing shining like the sun 24/7/365. Then when they found out we had to spend all that time and money to make it work NOT how they wanted it to, well, that was not pretty...
    There is now a super simplified wiring for the USA market (and no doubt some others) where they simply glow their little hearts out as much as possible...
    More proof that money (or in most cases, indebtedness) CAN’T buy taste...
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