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    SOLD: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323260945906 <-- Listing ends May 24, 2018. Did not sell. Price was $62,500.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323271367215 <-- Classified ad, "ended by the seller because the item is no longer available" on May 30, 2018.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323291330768 <-- Classified ad, "ended by the seller because the item is no longer available" on June 14, 2018.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323301798972 <-- Listing ended June 21, 2018. Price reduced to $56,500 OBO.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323327926155 <-- Listing ended July 9, 2018.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323340744693 <-- Listing ended July 16, 2018. Price reduced to $53,500 OBO.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323375796006 <-- Listing ends August 6, 2018. Price reduced to $50,900 OBO.





    VIN = WDBEA36EXNB767324

    1992 Mercedes-Benz 500 Series 500E 25k Miles, 1 Owner, VIDEO
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    We are selling this beautiful 500E on behalf of the original owner, a Chicago-based collector and enthusiast. He purchased the car new from Loeber Motors in Lincolnwood, IL as a daily driver for his wife. Shortly after that, his wife asked him to trade the 500E in for a 300E, as she thought the car was too fast. As an enthusiast who recognized the significance of the 500E model, he did not trade in the car. Rather, he got her a 300E and held onto the 500E as a weekend car. He used it a handful of times each year, accumulating only 25k miles over the course of his 26 year ownership. As it sits, this an extremely well-presented, one-owner, low mileage example. Truly collector-level. This car is so unmolested that the plastic on the sill inside the rear door is still in place! The car will be sold with all original books and manuals as well as the complete original toolkit still in the plastic.

    Exterior: - Please see the video with the listing, as every blemish on the car is shown close-up and in direct sunlight. There sure aren’t many. There are a few scuffs on the very bottom of the front valance, as well as a small nick on the rear corner of the passenger quarter. No door dings. Original paint presents phenomenally well. Again, please defer to the video. - Wheels and tires are in excellent shape. No curb rash or discoloring. Michelin tires were new in 2016 and are in like-new condition. - Glass and light lenses are all clear and crack-free. - Body panels are all original with VIN stickers

    Interior: - Interior is extremely nice. The radio has been swapped out for a Kenwood unit, but other than that the interior presents as factory. Dash is mint, faux wood inserts show no hairline cracks or damage. - Grey carpeting is in nice shape, car will also come with its original grey MB floormats. - Gauges are all functional. As is heat, AC, radio, windows, locks, rear shade, sunroof, etc. All powered systems work as they should. Odometer reads 25,579 and is functional and accurate. - Seats are in fantastic shape. Driver’s outer bolster has some very slight wear, as shown close-up in the video, passenger is excellent. Rear seats look to have seldom been used, as they appear like-new. In the photo of the rear seat on the driver’s side you may note what looks like a stain the center of the seatback; we have since gotten that out.

    Under the Hood / Underbody: - Please take a look through the underbody photos, as the car is documented in detail. The underbody is in nice shape, as the car has been garage kept since it was new. The heat shields around the exhaust show some rusting, but the body itself is excellent with no rust or damage whatsoever. - This car runs and drives phenomenally well. The huge reputation the 500E has garnered as one of the all-time great high-speed cruisers is very much justified. The car is extremely comfortable and dead silent inside the cabin; the build quality is evident immediately upon getting in. At just 25k original miles, this car has never required much more of a service than fluids and tires. Those items have been addressed periodically as they should, and the car truly drives like-new. There are absolutely no noises or tendencies of concern. Wouldn’t hesitate to drive the car across the country tomorrow (and would love to do so!). - The 5.0L M119 used in the 500E (1992-1994) was actually most powerful in 1992, as the 93 and 94 cars has 7hp less. Power delivery is smooth and effortless. Quoted figures are 322hp and 354lbft, big numbers for an early-90s sedan.

    Overall, this is an extraordinary example of a fantastic, historically-significant, quickly-appreciating model. This car fits the bill as both the ultimate daily-driver, or even a prize-worthy collection piece. With any further questions, requests, or to discuss purchasing, please reach out to Jake at 773-273-8257.

    Contact the seller: 773 303 6122

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    Re: FS: 1991 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

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    Re: FS: 1991 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    Minty..."So fresh and so clean"... but I'm not into the Black Pearl effect on this car. My allroad is Black Pearl effect... Nice car though... No comment on price.

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    PS, Well, not really. Maybe that’s 10,000, 2.5 Mile trips... seats look a lot more worn than mine with triple the miles. But still a good candidate. I think the exhaust comes out anyway but the rusty underbelly is what it is.
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    Re: FS: 1991 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

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    Re: FS: 1991 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    The thread title says 1991 but it is clearly a 1992. The exhaust looks a little rusty for the low mileage.

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    Re: FS: 1991 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Maui View Post
    The thread title says 1991 but it is clearly a 1992. The exhaust looks a little rusty for the low mileage.

    That's my typo. The volume of pics had me having a bad-day-at-the-office flashback. lol

    Yeah, the underside is far from pristine for miles and "always garaged."
    Headliner is falling.
    Front spoiler is toast.
    Aftermarket radio.

    Paint and wheels look good.

    Not seeing or reading any reference to maintenance or receipts. #RedFlag
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    What a shame the car was driven in winter, on salted roads. Looks great up top, hope there's not more cancer lurking where it can't be seen.

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    Where’s Steven X 3? This looks like a candidate for him. Yes it has a little rust on muffler system. You could probably attribute to condensation but not winter driving. The adhesive used in the headliner has deteriorated due to age. Probably other interior stuff will get loose also. A few scuffs on the spoiler. It will probably have $5K deferred maintenance just from lack of use. That’s all Mickey Mouse stuff the basic car looks solid.

    The asking price of $63K is a long ways from the $85K or $95K other low mileage cars are asking. If Steven X 3 is serious he should take a look before a flipper gets his hands on it and it becomes another $100K asking price.

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    It's not just the exhaust system. That car will not be a joy to wrench on, IMO.
    Seller did a good job photo-documenting the condition, but there are plenty of hidden areas which need poking and prodding.

    The miles are super-attractive, but is somebody going to pay big bucks for a car that looks like that underneath?
    Interior looks a bit more worn than the miles would suggest. Perhaps it just goes hand in hand with having gray guts?


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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    ace,

    Any car that is 25 years old will have problems. Mercedes did not rustproof all of the steel on the underside. Most can probably be cleaned up. The 25K miles to me means the mechanicals are good for a long time. Rubber seals and gaskets will be the biggest issue on this car. If someone starts driving it regularly it will create leaks that will require fixing. Old rubber just goes bad.

    I once had a 1986 is 300E w/ 30K on the clock. The worst problem was oil leaks in the 100K I put on it.

    I see this as a flipper car if an enthusiast doesn’t pick it up now. A flipper will clean it up and next time you see it the price will be pushing $100K.

    Still Just my $0.02
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    I have a garage full of Toyotas of similar vintage... four at last count. None look like that underneath (meaning they're all cleaner). I've owned a few Toyotas which were clean up top and gnarly underneath. They've all been moved off the books, because I strongly prefer pristine examples. The '95 Tacoma that I just acquired is vastly cleaner than this 500. I paid all the money and searched for months, but I know I can keep it clean and it will likely serve me the rest of my days.

    Short of spraying this car with black mystery goo below the waterline to cover it all up, I don't see any possible way to clean up that much corrosion in a cost-effective (flipper friendly) way. I'm probably wrong about that, but I don't flip cars and I don't like flippers as a general rule.

    It's not as if this is some basket case, but it's pretty far from pristine, IMO.

    Any owner with time, patience and money can certainly get this car back to miles-appropriate condition. But is that the type of Buyer who will pay top of the market money and then embark on such a project?
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    A good example of why you can't buy on miles alone.

    It's all about condition.
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    I doesn't look a any better underneath than my 220k car from PA did.

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    All of the above.

    Price is crack pipe for the condition items you have all pointed out already. I don’t care how many miles it has. The small bits here and there add up, and IMHO, point more towards an inattentive owner than an enthusiast.

    Just like the other thread, good old P.T. is right, so I assume this one will move along eventually. Even with the faux wood trim




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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    For that much money, whatever the miles, the car should not have NEAR that amount of rust. That rust should take some serious money off the price of this car.

    That said, it can be cleaned up and remedied.


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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    They are asking $63K. After getting beat up for the undercarriage rust they will be selling for less. Lots of rusty nuts, bolts, clips and clamps to renew or replace. A new stock exhaust would be probably be $2K plus. This is not a job to give to a dealership or a resto company IMOP. An enthusiast with the space, a lift and time on his hands could make a big dent in that underside for not much cost.

    Would it cost +/- $10K to cleanup the undercarriage to stock condition? Going the way of 600Eric and Jeff it can be cleaned up. I wish 600Eric or Jeff would chime in with their opinion. It would go a long way with me as to an actual cleanup cost.

    The basic car is still solid. For the right price this would be a great buy. I’m anxious to see what it actually sells for. Somewhere down the road I hope we all find out.
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    When I sold my Tundra a couple months ago, there were a few fasteners around the tailgate area which had corrosion. I couldn't transfer ownership of the truck with them looking like that. I ordered six screws from an online discount Toyota dealer, the cost was a staggering $32 with shipping. But it was a micro-scale project and there was a pending cash inflow.

    On my recently-departed E63S, I offered to replaced 10-20 10mm screws in the engine bay. They had all taken on a slight rusty patina and bothered me. The Buyer waved me off on the offer. I have no clue what they would have cost, but my guess was $4-5 per. Searching might have located an aftermarket alternative, but I don't see that being a viable path for a widespread refresh. Simply too much time, sorting and inventorying.

    The right kind of personality might take pleasure in refreshing this car. If everything was available (not endless runs to pick and pull, crawling on the ground, etc) I wouldn't dread it so much. But I'm fairly certain this would be end up being a soul-crushing unfinished project for me.
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    Back up on the 'Bay - same price

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323271367215 <-- Classified ad, $62,500 / OBO
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    Appears someone put down a deposit on May 30, and didn't like results of a PPI:

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    Relisted

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    I wonder if they would part it out. Ii see a few things I could use...
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $63k (Chicago, IL)

    In the listing it mentions that the "faux wood" has no cracks! What is this thing a Chrysler?
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $57k (Chicago, IL)

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $57k (Chicago, IL)

    Relisted, BIN lowered to $53,500

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $54k (Chicago, IL)

    Reduce to $50900
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Series-500E/323375796006

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

    So, we’re down to $0.059Mm now?

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

    This thread is hilarious !

    A couple scratches on the front spoiler of a 26 year old car and it's 'toast ' !? OK.

    The car appears completely honest and in a nice preserved, original condition...
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

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    This thread is hilarious !

    A couple scratches on the front spoiler of a 26 year old car and it's 'toast ' !? OK.

    The car appears completely honest and in a nice preserved, original condition...
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

    Yeah, I guess you're right. Rust and cosmetic issues are totally acceptable on a car which had a top-of-the-market Ask three months ago.


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    And it is still arguably a “top of the market“ ask. As often as not, it is “the ask” that prompts the nitpicking...
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    And it is still arguably a “top of the market“ ask. As often as not, it is “the ask” that prompts the nitpicking...


    However, sellers are fully entitled to "ask" whatever they think they can get. It all depends on how long you want to sit on the car.

    There are not a lot of $0.05Mm E500E buyers out there .... a few, but these folks (who have the cash to jump on the right car for them) are not going to jump on this one, hence the continued price lowering.

    I think this seller will eventually come down to reality. May just take a while, or a deal gets consummated off-grid for much lower than asking price, as is usually the case.

    Needless to say, this car will certainly pop up again, once it is finally sold.

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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

    Now, I hate to be piling on, especially because sometimes I think we on this forum are a little too harsh with these cars, and in my opinion, we should NEVER be directly “talking down“ the price of them. The price should be decided between the seller and the buyer, period.

    That said, there is one thing that I frequently see that makes my skin crawl whenever I do see it, and that is whenever a radio has been “swapped out“ for something else. What that usually means, especially on these multi-chassis radio cars, which is everything 124.034-036 until the 94 model year, is that every single thing that is or contains the radio, the sound system components, the wiring, and/or a speaker has been mutilated by the so-called “installers“

    What baffles me is how often I don’t see this mentioned as a potential objection point.

    In 95/96 I was able to purchase my first .036 car for $10,000 less than the rest of its condition may have merited just due to the level of stereo butchery the vehicle contained. Unless it can be shown otherwise, whenever I see that Mickey Mouse radio, I KNOW that the interior is a mass of loose rattling things, and to add insult to so much injury, the sound quality won’t even rival that of a wave radio that the cat has pissed in. The potential expenses and/or labor for putting this crap right needs to be considered by anybody that is shopping any MB. Whenever you see a Mickey Mouse radio, even a quality MM radio, your, “Oh crap!” meter should peg past the red bar. These are 100 percent guilty until proven innocent for me. Out of the tens I’ve seen, only a couple of installations weren’t unmitigated disasters, and only one didn’t sound like a couple of tin cans connected by a string. Really big, really loud tin cans, but still, tin cans with string...
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    Re: FS: 1992 500E, Pearl Black/Gray, 25kmi, $51k (Chicago, IL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    And it is still arguably a “top of the market“ ask. As often as not, it is “the ask” that prompts the nitpicking...
    This: ^^^

    Same car asking $10k and it would have sold in hours. Asking six figures, a microscope would come out pointing out every single flaw in every single photo. At $50k, it's just a medium-size magnifying glass. About the only item I'd politely disagree with is the front spoiler as 'toast'... it is scraped up and needs a little TLC, but I didn't spot any significant damage or broken pieces (which would be a big deal as the bumper is NLA). I didn't study every photo so I may have missed something there. My personal opinion is that the common paint color, along with visible rust underneath, will ultimately limit what most buyers are willing to pay. I must give credit to the seller for posting multiple photos of the undercarriage though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    ...there is one thing that I frequently see that makes my skin crawl whenever I do see it, and that is whenever a radio has been “swapped out“ for something else. What that usually means, especially on these multi chassis radio cars, which is everything 124.034-036 until the 94 model year, is that every single thing that contains radio or sound system wiring and/or a speaker has been mutilated by the so-called “installers“.

    What baffles me is how often I don’t see this mentioned as a potential objection point. ... Out of the tens I’ve seen, only a couple of installations weren’t unmitigated disasters, and only one didn’t sound like a couple of tin cans connected by a string. Really big, really loud tin cans, but still, tin cans with string...
    Plus eleventybillion! It's rare, very rare, to find a proper upgrade to the Becker 1432 systems used in all 1991-1993 USA model years. You cannot just upgrade the head unit. The only thing that works is a comprehensive replacement of almost all components, including rewiring everything, along with aftermarket amplifiers. Expensive and difficult to do properly. If the stock harness was butchered, it's then difficult to restore to factory if desired. At that point you might as well source all the 94-95 components (wiring harness, amps, etc) and upgrade to the Becker 1492 system which does allow upgrading the head unit as plug+play, without cutting a single wire. But anyway, on this car, there are no photos of the trunk interior (nothing in the video either), to indicate if it might possibly have a proper upgrade with amplifiers, or if it was just a head unit hacked in with the existing components. I guess at this price point it would be more of a nuisance than anything else if the stereo sounds like "a wave radio that the cat has pissed in". I gotta remember that one...


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    I absolutely agree on the radio aspect. So often glossed over in write ups and BAT peanut gallery for one is terrible for not addressing and even approving of aftermarket stereo hack jobs. Makes my skin crawl to see a gawdy LED ridden mess in place of original setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klink View Post
    Now, I hate to be piling on, especially because sometimes I think we on this forum are a little too harsh with these cars, and in my opinion, we should NEVER be directly “talking down“ the price of them. The price should be decided between the seller and the buyer, period.

    That said, there is one thing that I frequently see that makes my skin crawl whenever I do see it, and that is whenever a radio has been “swapped out“ for something else. What that usually means, especially on these multi chassis radio cars, which is everything 124.034-036 until the 94 model year, is that every single thing that contains radio or sound system wiring and/or a speaker has been mutilated by the so-called “installers“

    What baffles me is how often I don’t see this mentioned as a potential objection point.

    In 95/96 I was able to purchase my first .036 car for 10,000 less than the rest of its condition may have merited just due to the level of stereo butchery the vehicle contained. Unless it can be shown otherwise, whenever I see that Mickey Mouse radio, I KNOW that the interior is a mass of loose rattling things, and to add insult to so much injury, the sound quality won’t even rival that of a wave radio that the cat has pissed in. The potential expenses and/or labor for putting this crap right needs to be considered by anybody that is shopping any MB. Whenever you see a Mickey Mouse radio, even a quality MM radio, your, “Oh crap!” meter should peg past the red bar. These are 100 percent guilty until proven innocent for me. Out of the tens I’ve seen, only a couple of installations weren’t unmitigated disasters, and only one didn’t sound like a couple of tin cans connected by a string. Really big, really loud tin cans, but still, tin cans with string...
    I agree with you 100%. I once owned a very low mileage E34 M5 with 13K miles back in 2008ish that I bought with more emotional desire than logical thinking due to the miles and wanting to own one. It had a very nice Nakamichi radio in it. It was a "$15K" aftermarket installed system. Needless to say, it was a unmitigated disaster. The sheet metal behind the back seat was removed (ruining the structural integrity of the car). The fuse box was hacked into. The engine bay was filled with sheet metal screws and full of holes. The gauge of wire looked like battery cables inside the engine bay with it's own fuse. It was a "cool" system back when the car was new. It certainly didn't age well and made for an electrical nightmare to correct.

    I had a buddy who used to do these installs correctly back in the day, help me fix this nightmare. We must have pulled out 25 pounds of this gauge wire out of the car. We were able to resolve the harness issues. Had a body shop fix the holes and the missing sheet metal. It was truly amazing to what lengths one goes to make something "cool". It really makes it so much worse and won't stand the test of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L James View Post
    I agree with you 100%. I once owned a very low mileage E34 M5 with 13K miles back in 2008ish that I bought with more emotional desire than logical thinking due to the miles and wanting to own one. It had a very nice Nakamichi radio in it. It was a "$15K" aftermarket installed system. Needless to say, it was a unmitigated disaster. The sheet metal behind the back seat was removed (ruining the structural integrity of the car). The fuse box was hacked into. The engine bay was filled with sheet metal screws and full of holes. The gauge of wire looked like battery cables inside the engine bay with it's own fuse. It was a "cool" system back when the car was new. It certainly didn't age well and made for an electrical nightmare to correct.

    I had a buddy who used to do these installs correctly back in the day, help me fix this nightmare. We must have pulled out 25 pounds of this gauge wire out of the car. We were able to resolve the harness issues. Had a body shop fix the holes and the missing sheet metal. It was truly amazing to what lengths one goes to make something "cool". It really makes it so much worse and won't stand the test of time.

    Sorry guys, just brought up some bad memories!!
    Most of what you described was my first 500E. Fortunately, they hadn't cut up the hat shelf metal. I DID once repair a 140 that had been done as your M5, with hat shelf hacking, etc. It was about $12K to put right. I was shocked that the customer who "just got this great deal at the auction!" approved and paid for the repairs, but he did...
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    All of you with butchered cars as a result of so-called sound-system upgrades can maybe feel a little better in the knowledge that this side of the pond we have similar numb-heads who get up to the same behaviour!

    Up till now I've been afraid to admit that I bought a 500E on which the radio/sound (and subsequently the car) had been so comprehensively hacked about! I felt it was a failing on my part not to have noticed this prior to purchase. In my defence, however, much of the damage was only revealed when I removed the door cards, to find some after-market speakers had been fitted - I use the term "fitted" loosely as they had been stuck in place with enough flexible filler to have plugged the hole in the Titanic! And again, on removing the rear hat shelf for repairs to the blind, I found the metal shelf to have been comprehensively butchered, leaving two great holes with jagged edges.

    The first issue I was able to address, spending hours/hours picking the filler out from the inside of the doors - but the rear shelf problem I have yet to address! I guess the only real cure would be to cut out the old metal shelf, and refit a new one? Anyone ever done this?

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    SOLD.
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