Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

  1. #1
    E500E Guru Jlaa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Northern California, USA
    Posts
    891

    Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    Has anyone mounted a replacement rearview mirror dashcam? (as opposed to a clip on dash cam)

    I am curious on what the effort level involved is. What is driving this question - I anticipate that someday my interior rearview mirror will break. When that happens, why not replace that with a fancy schmancy one? I could replace that with a fancy shmancy 2-phast one with homelink and compass, except that I don't use my garage door opener remote (personal preference - security risk).

    I see OE-rearview-replacement dash cams like this on Amazon on all the time, but have not really looked into it. Note - I don't know much about dash cams.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...k_ql_qh_dp_hza

    aaaa.png
    ---
    Instagram
    1993 MB 500E
    1996 Porsche 993 C2

  2. #2
    Member speedy300dturbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    California
    Posts
    50

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    The one you posted won't work with the MB mount - it's designed to clip onto a metal bracket that's glued to the windshield (typical on American and Japanese cars). I've seen the dashcam rearview mirrors that clip over the stock mirror, but most of those monstrosities look terribly out of place in a W124 interior (IMO). I suggest sticking with a standalone unit such as the Blueskysea B1W (ultra compact, nearly invisible behind the stock rearview mirror) or Viofo A119 / A129 (a bit bulkier). Make sure you get a unit that runs on a super-capacitor. Integrated Li-Ion and LiPo batteries tend to fail quickly.

    Currently I'm running dual B1W cameras (one front, one rear) and thinking about attaching additional side-facing cameras on the rear quarter windows.

  3. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to speedy300dturbo For This Useful Post:

    gsxr (08-20-2018), Jlaa (08-19-2018)

  4. #3
    E500E Guru Jlaa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Northern California, USA
    Posts
    891

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    Quote Originally Posted by speedy300dturbo View Post
    The one you posted won't work with the MB mount - it's designed to clip onto a metal bracket that's glued to the windshield (typical on American and Japanese cars). I've seen the dashcam rearview mirrors that clip over the stock mirror, but most of those monstrosities look terribly out of place in a W124 interior (IMO). I suggest sticking with a standalone unit such as the Blueskysea B1W (ultra compact, nearly invisible behind the stock rearview mirror) or Viofo A119 / A129 (a bit bulkier). Make sure you get a unit that runs on a super-capacitor. Integrated Li-Ion and LiPo batteries tend to fail quickly.

    Currently I'm running dual B1W cameras (one front, one rear) and thinking about attaching additional side-facing cameras on the rear quarter windows.
    Thanks. Hmmmm.. The driver behind my question is not so much that I really am wanting to fit a dash cam, but that when my rear view mirror breaks (as they all break eventually) that I'd like to fit a more modern rear view mirror. I wonder if 2phast has fitted more modern mirror hardware (meaning beyond homelink/compass/autodim mirror) to the MB mounts....
    ---
    Instagram
    1993 MB 500E
    1996 Porsche 993 C2

  5. #4
    E500E Guru 2phast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Kirkland, Washington
    Posts
    1,639

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    Yes I have. You can see the videos of these here; http://mirrors.2phast.com

    There are very few that can be modified to work with the factory MB brackets. It needs to be of a specific ball/socket design and if the mirror itself has too many wires, they all can't fit inside the OE Mercedes bracket. Some of these mirrors are not easy to take apart and are very delicate. The other factor is cost, these mirrors are pricey and if you factor in the conversion cost, they become cost prohibitive.

    I am looking into one mirror that might work but the wiring would need to be external to the bracket, but the good thing is the factory MB bracket would be usable. Need to test this design before I go into detail about it.
    1993 500E
    http://2phast.com/500e/500e-sig.jpg

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to 2phast For This Useful Post:

    Jlaa (08-20-2018)

  7. #5
    E500E Guru Jlaa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Northern California, USA
    Posts
    891

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    Thanks 2phast, now I understand the constraints you are working under. Some of these more modern mirrors have bluetooth (phone calls!!), and some others have lots-o-video-inputs, but now looking through your pictures, I understand the problem of having too-many-wires to go through the ball/socket.
    ---
    Instagram
    1993 MB 500E
    1996 Porsche 993 C2

  8. #6
    E500E Guru 2phast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Kirkland, Washington
    Posts
    1,639

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlaa View Post
    Thanks 2phast, now I understand the constraints you are working under. Some of these more modern mirrors have bluetooth (phone calls!!), and some others have lots-o-video-inputs, but now looking through your pictures, I understand the problem of having too-many-wires to go through the ball/socket.
    The GPS mirror I just recently sold, took me three tries to get right and even then, I had to remove some wires from main wiring loom. It had everything in it though, Homelink, auto dimming, backup camera, GPS, touch screen, bluetooth, internal speaker etc. It did not have a front mounted dash camera though.

    If I come up with a suitable candidate for this type of mirror, chances are none of the wiring will be internal to the bracket. Opening these mirrors up is a nightmare due to all the electronics and easily damaged wiring. They are pricey though, so hopefully I can work out a deal with the manufacture.
    1993 500E
    http://2phast.com/500e/500e-sig.jpg

  9. #7
    E500E Guru Jlaa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Northern California, USA
    Posts
    891

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    Quote Originally Posted by speedy300dturbo View Post
    The one you posted won't work with the MB mount - it's designed to clip onto a metal bracket that's glued to the windshield (typical on American and Japanese cars). I've seen the dashcam rearview mirrors that clip over the stock mirror, but most of those monstrosities look terribly out of place in a W124 interior (IMO). I suggest sticking with a standalone unit such as the Blueskysea B1W (ultra compact, nearly invisible behind the stock rearview mirror) or Viofo A119 / A129 (a bit bulkier). Make sure you get a unit that runs on a super-capacitor. Integrated Li-Ion and LiPo batteries tend to fail quickly.

    Currently I'm running dual B1W cameras (one front, one rear) and thinking about attaching additional side-facing cameras on the rear quarter windows.
    On second thought, is there any reason why you cannot MOUNT a blueskysea b1w to the back of one of Rik's mirrors and rotate the lens 360* to view out the windshield? Theoretically you could have an all in one homelink/compass/autodim mirror/dashcam that way ..... and the blueskysea dash cam only requires 2 wires - power and ground right? Same as Rik's mirrors?

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A2E2D732KBQJI9

    Untitled 2.png
    ---
    Instagram
    1993 MB 500E
    1996 Porsche 993 C2

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Jlaa For This Useful Post:

    TerryA (4 Weeks Ago)

  11. #8
    Member speedy300dturbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    California
    Posts
    50

    Re: Rearview Mirror Dashcams?

    I would mount the dashcam on the windshield so the recording angle of the camera isn't affected by minor adjustments to the mirror, or if the mirror is bumped when putting up the sunshade. Almost all dashcams are powered by a 5V mini or micro USB, so you'll need a 12V to 5V converter box. The boxes are small (about the size of a matchbox) so there's plenty of room to hide it behind the dome light, and you can snake the USB end behind the headliner panel to the camera. I connected my B1W cameras with a right angle cable for a cleaner look.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  12. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to speedy300dturbo For This Useful Post:

    Christian_K (4 Weeks Ago), gsxr (4 Weeks Ago), Jlaa (4 Weeks Ago), TerryA (4 Weeks Ago)

Similar Threads

  1. SOLD: used W124 rearview mirror
    By captruff in forum Parts for Sale
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 6 Days Ago, 11:59 AM
  2. WTB: Rearview Mirror with HomeLink for a 500SEC
    By 1783pictures in forum C126 Coupes
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 2 Weeks Ago, 10:23 PM
  3. WTB: Rearview Mirror with HomeLink for a 500SEC
    By 1783pictures in forum Wanted to Buy
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-18-2018, 05:15 PM
  4. WTB: Rearview mirror
    By vatc5637 in forum Wanted to Buy
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-08-2018, 07:25 AM
  5. Rearview mirror install
    By 500ebeebe in forum Interior Topics
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 06-08-2016, 10:03 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •