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    Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Were all the european specifications early 500Es delivered WITHOUT the license plate panel?

    See the comparison here between one with and one without.

    The one without has always looked cleaner to me - more unadulterated. I wonder if reverting to this is as simple as removing the plastic panel, and buying and installing the black strip on the underside...?
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    Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    There is a “Euro” trunk lid with a wider cutout for longer European license plates, as you show. It’s a separate part number than the one for US models. I believe it’s in the EPC.

    Same thing with the facelift cars —separate parts.

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Pre 90 W124's did not come with the filler piece, which could be added. You can also remove yours as well, if you like that look. The filler piece was integrated into the trunk lid on the facelift trunks.
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    I'm waiting for a storm to pass so I can warm my car up for an oil change. Filler plate is off for the final polishing and there is no where to mount a plate. You would have to drill holes to mount your US plate as the mounting holes are in the filler plate.

    The holes visible are for the filler plate. They are about 2 inches too wide for a US plate. I suppose a bracket could be made.

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by sheward View Post
    I'm waiting for a storm to pass so I can warm my car up for an oil change. Filler plate is off for the final polishing and there is no where to mount a plate. You would have to drill holes to mount your US plate as the mounting holes are in the filler plate.

    The holes visible are for the filler plate. They are about 2 inches too wide for a US plate. I suppose a bracket could be made.

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    Thanks for the pic! Well...that sucks. I always felt like the pre-90 non facelift models have a more harmonious looking rear - the black line at the bottom edge of the trunk lid “connects” the tailights visually speaking. On the US cars, this line is not there.
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlaa View Post
    Were all the european specifications early 500Es delivered WITHOUT the license plate panel?

    See the comparison here between one with and one without.

    The one without has always looked cleaner to me - more unadulterated. I wonder if reverting to this is as simple as removing the plastic panel, and buying and installing the black strip on the underside...?
    Part# 124 758 03 46

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlaa View Post
    Thanks for the pic! Well...that sucks. I always felt like the pre-90 non facelift models have a more harmonious looking rear - the black line at the bottom edge of the trunk lid “connects” the tailights visually speaking. On the US cars, this line is not there.
    The plate would not mount directly to the deck lid, there is a metal mounting frame that mounts to the deck lid and then you mount the plate to the mounting frame.

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Perfect guys! There is no more knowledgeable corner of the Interwebz than here!
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    ote --- Just to be clear, I think you guys are saying the following right?

    <EDIT --- PREVIOUSLY LOOKED AT 300CE DIAGRAM WHICH IS WRONG, ALSO LOOOKED AT 300E WHICH IS WRONG>
    <EDIT2 --- PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED THE UPPER HANDLE NOT THE LOWER HANDLE>
    <EDIT3 --- ALL THE PREVIOUSLY AMASSED INFORMATION WAS WRONG. NOW CORRECTED AS I FOUND THE RIGHT DIAGRAM>


    Part 124 690 27 62 is the black strip at the bottom of the trunk lid seen in the pic of the silver car @ the top of the thread. This is item #3 in the diagram below

    Part 005 988 75 78 (need 6 of them) are the clips that mount the black strip to the trunk lid

    Part 124 817 00 11 would be needed to mount a US license plate to the bolt holes that sheward shows in his picture --- these holes would otherwise be used to mount the US filler panel
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    I can assist with photos of these items. I have a few spare Euro rear filler pieces. Note that the pre facelift w124 saloons here did not come with these from factory. The C124 models however did come with them fitted from factory even up to the 1995 model years. The trim will also fit a w124 saloon perfectly. (I intend to use one with my 3 piece AMG spoiler as I think it looks better with this fitted)

    To fit this you would first pry off the little black metal strip at the lower trunk edge. Then this panel clips back into those lower holes. And the original 4 screw bosses on the trunk lid butt up to the back of the panel. The licence plate screws in effect secure the rest of this panel.

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    For anyone with a NON US Market car, can you do me a favor and peek at the part number for this piece below (highlighted in red)? Is it 124 750 04 93? Many thanks.

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Now that I have fixed all the part numbers / diagrams in post #9, I found some more pictures that illustrates what I'm after:

    These pictures (I found on GSXR's website) are of a pre-facelift European-spec 500E that is now living in the States. I suspect all pre-facelift 500Es were supposed to like this ... (before they got imported to the USA that is!)

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    And this is the license plate bracket that makes it work.

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    The outer holes are for bolting the metal bracket into the European-number-plate-mounting-holes in the trunk sheetmetal. The inner holes are for mounting the US-style license plate. Note that this is the same look as the original "Series 1" W124 sedans (1989 and prior?).

    I prefer this style - I like the negative space in between the tail lights as originally drawn by Bruno Sacco. When MB filled in this negative space with the plastic license plate filler panels, the negative space was lost.
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    As stated, all pre face-lift cars came without the filler panel. Never a standard on a saloon model. However with the face-lift MB saved some money for not making updated trunk lids for the coupes and convertibles (both differ from each other as well as both differ from the saloon version) since they have a quite smaller production number. Instead the filler plate was used - which fits also saloon pre face-lift trunk lids.

    For me, the pre face-lift design widens the body visually due to the horizontal lines of trunk handle strip (upper) and lower edge strip compared to the face-lift trunk with the short chrome strip which gives me the impression that it makes the cars rear end looks taller or higher. The filler plates keep somehow the horizontal lines or at least the upper one intakt. Have a filler panel for my car too but will not mount it - at least for now.
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dario View Post
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    FWIW, most states have laws against having a license plate on your car issued by a foreign government, even if your actual plate is on top of it. You may want to check on that where you live. In Washington, its a large ticket and running a euro plate on the front of your car actually nets you two tickets, one for the foreign plate and one for no front WA state plate. Also, having the euro plate in your window is also a ticket, at least in my state.
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2phast View Post
    FWIW, most states have laws against having a license plate on your car issued by a foreign government, even if your actual plate is on top of it. You may want to check on that where you live. In Washington, its a large ticket and running a euro plate on the front of your car actually nets you two tickets, one for the foreign plate and one for no front WA state plate. Also, having the euro plate in your window is also a ticket, at least in my state.
    that was just for picture taking. This is how i drive when I drive it which is rarily.
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    Re: Rear License Plate Filler Panel - early w124.036 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlaa View Post
    For anyone with a NON US Market car, can you do me a favor and peek at the part number for this piece below (highlighted in red)? Is it 124 750 04 93? Many thanks.
    I have a new part as spare and it has the part no A1246902762

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