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    Hi Rouven !, how expensive is that change of caliper and brakes?

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    Hi! I paid around 4000 Euro for the parts. This is already a discounted price.
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    In the end of October I went back home for some arrangements and also responded to the request of the local dealer to participate with some of my cars on a young classics car show. Was quite a nice event, even so late in the year, many people passed by with their classics and young classics.
    Some selected vehicles have been displayed in the emptied show room, all cars came from customers and employees.
    2 other 036's showed up, one in mother-of-pearl and a retrofitted trailer hitch and a silver one.
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    Also started to assemble the M104 3.2 Turbo monster for my brothers car after the blocks (spare 2.5-16 and 3.2 M104) had been bored and honed. In conjunction with this work we had visited one of the most unique and specialized piston manufacturers : Kolben Wahl. They are a small family business but do pistons for mostly all classic Benz and Porsche cars. There i ordered a set of special 16V pistons, got some more tweaks done to the already modified M104 turbo pistons and had a chat about different ideas and possibilities in regards to the M119 6.0. They actually work together with Mahle which is more or less in the neighborhood and use exclusively their forged pistons in raw. Since Mercedes Classic is also very close by, you can see there orders from them too. Also Kienle,HK Engineering, Mechatronik, MKB and AMG etc. are working with them for classic cars and special projects. Also dropped the 6.0 heads, exhaust and intake manifolds at Bernard's place. Along with the latest version of cnc porting will come a set of lighter con rods, even so it means my previously done fine balancing of the rotation assembly became obsolete and must be re done. We also discussed additional measures such as cams and exhaust system layout. Since I have 2 very competent sources on hand I might get a custom solution. For example, together with few other guy's we just managed to run a small production of the dual pipe AMG power pack exhaust system. The original is NLA since ages and prone to corrosion. Since I have a excellent sample under the evo1, we have taken this as a template and a dead rear muffler of a friend's pp system to be cut apart to copy the complex 3 chamber layout to ensure the right amount of back pressure. Last but not least visited my friend Thorsten and got some things arranged for the DTM car, i.e. the wheel carriers for front and rear axles and the layout to have the car on driving condition by 2019. So all of these things and the stuff in the post on top happened in less than a weeks time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rouven036 View Post
    Also dropped the 6.0 heads, exhaust and intake manifolds at Bernard's place. Along with the latest version of cnc porting will come a set of lighter con rods, even so it means my previously done fine balancing of the rotation assembly became obsolete and must be re done. We also discussed additional measures such as cams and exhaust system layout. .
    Just curious, what will Bernard be doing to the M119 / 6.0L heads? What are the power gains hoped for from the 6.0 mods?


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    Ports will be enlarged, port matching to the intake, enlarging and port matching of the exhaust manifold ports. Opting for around 430 crank hp in the 6L setup.
    Even a 6.5L Brabus setup is no problem despite the cost of the crank. Forged Mahle pistons are about 300 Euro/piece including ferro coat plating. Since the DTM car needs still alot of attention, the W123 has a new escalation stage in the making and addition of a new family member by end of the year, a 6,5L project is currently not on my list.
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    Will this ever stop? After our first child was born one and a half weeks ago, I came across a S123 (initial) 280TE station wagon. I had to take it... There are no other options (as a responsible father) to buy it since it's a 7 seater family car. Sure needs some work but the car is a original Kuwaiti delivery out of may 1983. It has literally no rust nor any accidents (which is a miracle) but some dings and dents all around. The interior and most of rubbers are shot. Will post up some info and photos later...it has some specialties but here as it left the factory originally:

    737 classic white
    152 blue MB TEX
    AC
    4x power windows
    7 seater
    Bad road suspension (don't know the exact english term) but it's a bit higher and stiffer than the common version
    Undershield
    Tinted glazing
    Original radio set
    Electric antenna
    Automatic transmission
    Central locking
    2/3-1/3 folding rear bench
    ABS
    and some retrofitted modifications by AMG.

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    In the meantime I got a full and original Gen1 AMG kit for my R129, just had to have it. Together with the earlier purchased, untouched AMG 3 piece Aeros it will be a perfect match. Last photo out of the interwebs (not mine) just to show how the bornite will look in the AMG body trim and rims)
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    Also some recent news about the main actor, the W124 500E. As you know is the car currently equipped with the RH 19" AMG styling V and I can't go under 18" due to my big brakes... So got a set of Rial/ARC M800. The price and condition was right and they come a long way. Hope to receive them within the next month or so.
    However I have to figure out if any spacers on the front are required to clear the brakes (rear of course for the looks).
    Will have then 2 - 3 sets of wheels to use, depending on the purpose. 18" Neez Euro5's, 18" M800's and if I don't sell them the RH/AMG V19's.
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    veeery nice those Rial"s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rouven036 View Post
    In the meantime I got a full and original Gen1 AMG kit for my R129, just had to have it. Together with the earlier purchased, untouched AMG 3 piece Aeros it will be a perfect match. Last photo out of the interwebs (not mine) just to show how the bornite will look in the AMG body trim and rims)
    You, Kind Sir picked up a holly grail of "Wanted Items" by any R129 enthusiast, great package!

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    I know of a set of refinished R129 specific 18” AMG staggered 5 spoke rims which will be going up for sale soon. These were available as part of an AMG performance package and are now NLA. 8.5” fronts and 9.5” rears. If there is interest, I can ask when they will be available.


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    Opportunity stroke again, found something what I knew before only from some drawings in WIS (M104 Cis-e function description) and what actually never made it into series production. All of a sudden a never run, complete prototype M104 300-24 engine appeared. Once donated by Daimler to a school...
    I found the prototype valve cover from the WIS pictures always cool, since it relates the M104 300-24 engine's sporty nature obviously to the M102 16V engine.
    At the moment I have no use for it but I m sure something will appear over time. Maybe a 190E 2.6 paired with a 717.450 short ratio dogleg box.
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    that is friggin awesome!did you actually get hold of this..or did i misread something?
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    Yes, I got it.
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    Some final shots from the past weeks of the SL in the old home country, looking forward to drive it through the woods of the black forest soon. Along with the car, some other goodies go such as the Neez Euro5's for the W124.
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    Bornit
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    I m in Germany currently to collect the SL in Hamburg within the next days... However I also could finally see the M800's the first time in real. They are stunning, put up my current 19" wheels direct into eBay and ordered the right sized tires for the rials (245/40 R18 97Y XL).
    Some more useful info maybe for the one or other: I had to use 5mm spacers in the front with the 19" setup (8,5x19 ET 35) to clear the 6pot brake calipers . Also the M800 clear the brakes with the 5mm spacers nicely but since the m800 wheels are an half inch narrower which translates roughly to 6mm less per side I ordered a set of 10mm spacers (5mm currently + the 6mm difference, manufacturers is H&r with centering hub) and corresponding screws to get the same stance as currently which is just perfect for my taste.

    Small update, rims with tires now and the weight for the records:

    Rial/ARC M800 8X18 ET35 with tire 245/40 ZR 18 97Y XL, balanced and ready to be mounted/driven: 24,66kg per wheel.

    RH AMG Styling 4 8X19 ET35 with tire 245/35 R19 balanced and ready to be mounted/driven: 23,36kg per wheel
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    Rials are now on the car.... No need to mention that I m happy with the outcome... (front 5mm spacers for now, rears are 23 or 25mm per side, high quality H&R DR and DRA spacers). Some info about weight on the post on top.
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    Re: OWNER - Rouven036

    Rouven,

    Your car looks great. The Rials are one of the perfect wheels for the 036.

    To bad they are so rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryA View Post
    To bad they are so rare.
    Chicken or egg terry? ;D


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    Some proper pictures since i took the car out for a drive today.
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    Car looks great!

    Rouven036 what breake kit do you have?

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    Thx, the brakes are from CLK 63 AMG (W209) 360mm - 6 piston / 330mm - 4 piston setup. If you check through the pages of my thread you can find details to it.
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    Yeah those brakes are not for kids. I looked at your install. Car looks great. I especially love the 18” take on a 16” period wheel. Good originality.

    Cheers,

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    Wasn't so happy with the underbody cleanliness, especially above the rear axle. The first owner had the car sprayed with extensive preservation wax from beneath, it's great to protect the car over the years when driving the car in winter and rain, the down side is that it will collect dirt like a magnet. So I decided to clean it up bit by bit over the next few months or whenever I find time to work on it. Anyhow doesn't drive it in winter and rain anymore.

    Also while on it, replaced several parts, like prop shaft bearing, prop shaft center boot, cleaned and lubricated side brake mechanism, replaced sls lines between spheres and dampers,replaced fuel feed line to the pumps and breather/return hoses, replaced sls torsion bar u-bolt-bracket and strut, changed the diff oil with the Motul lsd diff oil (without friction modifiers suitable for the Wavetrac diff lock), cleaned the springs and damper struts etc.

    Some more photos will follow, for now just one after dropping the axle once again and another one whilst working on it. Axles are basically new so nothing to do there in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
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    Here some photos of the collected AMG parts to convert my car to a 6.0. I will remove the heads and replace valve stem seals all the timing chain and guides, oil pump, connecting rod/main bearings as well as the oil pan (engine came out of a W140). Since I got it together with the AMG modified transmission I will swap over the valve body to my newly overhauled one. As soon I start I will post photos here...
    Only thing I m missing now is the E60 stabilizer bar and the AMG springs/shocks. Hopefully will find them sooner or later too!
    To have all information suitable to the car, the new engine number and code 957 got already documented in the vehicle data card.
    Also did some research with the Manufacturer and got the exact date of the engine conversion 19.07.1994
    Looks nice! Any chance you could check the code numbers on the camshafts (see pics attached), and measure the cam lobes for intake & exhaust? I'm curious what you find for the lift measurements. If you could get measurements better than 0.05mm that would be great. Definitely would be nice to hear what Bernard recommends for tweaking the AMG 6L motor.
    I had just remembered this but have not yet all measurements and the code numbers noted. However the intake cam measurements of my engine are:
    Base circle 37.1mm
    Lobe height 47.2mm
    Lift = 10.1mm

    Exhaust cam and both codes not checked. Will check this in about 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rouven036 View Post
    I had just remembered this but have not yet all measurements and the code numbers noted. However the intake cam measurements of my engine are:
    Base circle 37.1mm
    Lobe height 47.2mm
    Lift = 10.1mm

    Exhaust cam and both codes not checked. Will check this in about 2 weeks.
    Awesome - thank you! Related question: Are the cam sprockets adjustable (slotted), or are they standard sprockets? I'm pretty sure they are standard on the .97x/.98x, but never have had my hands on a genuine AMG motor to see firsthand. Think only the tall-deck .960 had the adjustable/slotted setup.


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    Took the 500E to go for a short vacation and just on the way home I had a chance to give the whole setup a trial for top speed. Remember, the car has a 2.65 diff, top speed governor removed, and still the slightly tweaked stock 5L (repair size 1 pistons, polished heads, ported intake and exhaust manifold, HJS 200cpi cats. Tire size is 245/40R18 on the 18"x 8" M800's, speedo is a original 300km/h AMG unit for the 2.65 diff. As the calculation goes it should be 269km/h @ 6000rpm. Car pulls into rev limiter @ 6300 and bounces back to slightly above 6000. It should be 278km/h @ 6300.
    Here is a picture at 270:

    Further I can say that the E60 bar makes a big difference in body roll as well as the heavy M800 make the ride a bit more uncomfortable.
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    Awesome! Were you able to get any GPS speed readings?

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    I have no GPS readings however as per the calculation it should be quite accurate also the speedo setting is pretty much spot on. Don't know if a drift box or the like still up to date or is there any suitable mobile app available? Any recommendations?

    Some further side notes after the almost 2000km round trip (car was parked almost 11 years):
    - oil changed prior the trip, filled in 8L - no consumption noticeable on the dip stick
    - I was a bit hesitant to take the car for the trip due to any issues coming up and eventually getting stranded on the way (for example a leaking water pump from a corroded shaft due to long parking time) but all good, no signs of leakages anywhere (any fluids). However coolant needs replacement these days due to the age
    - brakes are really good but the amg pads develop ALOT of dust, even the rear wheels get a really good tint from the brake dust
    - high speed losses: burnt the inner reinforcement edge of the rear bumper near the exhaust tips a little bit, in cold conditions the tips are about 6-7cm away! The fog light access hole in the left fender liner popped open but nothing damaged just needed to be pushed back in the lock. My bonnet is already pre- tensioned but at speeds over 240ish the front outer edges lift off about 1cm . That felt not so good, have to look at this again.
    - I wish to have a oil temp gauge
    - noticed that the AC in low speeds and traffic jam got weak and engine temp going beyond 100 degrees Celsius. Found during the overall inspection this afternoon, that the upper wire on the Fan resistor is somehow corroded off or something. Have to get a new resistor and cable shoe at least (will remove the left head light and post some photos later on here). Fan fuse is all good.
    - e500e's are overall awesome cars (I guess the most of you know already )
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    Nice!
    Your dashboard is covered with leather, as far as i can see.
    Is a handmade stuff?
    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rouven036 View Post
    My bonnet is already pre- tensioned but at speeds over 240ish the front outer edges lift off about 1cm . That felt not so good, have to look at this again.
    Careful from that bonnet, the 124036 bonnet lock mechanism is a weak point at +270km/h.
    The first owner of my Brabus 6.5 had the lock area reinforced, he also wired the blinkers after one of them flew off and scuffed the fender.

    No one in this world had fun with a 124036 like he did

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercepor View Post
    Nice!
    Your dashboard is covered with leather, as far as i can see.
    Is a handmade stuff?
    Thx
    Yes, the dashboard, center console etc is covered in leather or leather/Alcantara mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 195910 View Post
    Careful from that bonnet, the 124036 bonnet lock mechanism is a weak point at +270km/h.
    The first owner of my Brabus 6.5 had the lock area reinforced, he also wired the blinkers after one of them flew off and scuffed the fender.

    No one in this world had fun with a 124036 like he did
    Hi Ahmad! Yes indeed, the indicators are a known high speed issue of the W124. Two scenarios can happen: loosing the lens only or the whole indicator. I have new indicators and made sure the edge where the clip sits is in perfect condition as well while pushing the indicator in, make 100% sure it clips in position well. I lost once a white indicator years ago never ever since.
    I really feel the need for a 2nd bonnet lock as in the newer cars. However will play with the adjustment a bit more and see what I will get. Also did MB safe a bit of money while not making a reinforced bonnet for the 034/036 cars like you can find in the W201 6 cylinder and 16V cars. It's not only the front outer edges getting pulled up but also the center area of the bonnet wobbles around, right there were the W201 m103/16V bonnets have the additional longitudinal reinforcement struts.
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    Hello Rouven, I am curious to know if the engine was “broken in” at constant low speed say 80-100 km/hr after you did your repair 1 size on the cylinder?
    I may be wrong, but I remember from my high school days the Auto class teacher used to say that it’s not recommended to drive at max speeds after engine rebuild.
    But I am sure you did some “normal” driving before you hit 275/hr.

    If the car had the original 16” rims it would have gone more than 275/hr .
    Must have been exciting to feel the torque


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    Yes sure. The engine had covered in 2007 something like 1200km to 1500km of normal driving. On top comes some maybe total of 150km - 200km driving around before the trip and the approx 1000km on the way to our destination where I drove max to 4000 rpm. So there was sufficient brake in period.
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    Replaced the auxiliary fan pre-resistor and upper cable shoe. The original able shoe was corroded off and due to the excessive resistance the wire got also overheated the first 3cm or so. The cable is long enough to shorten it. Used two individual cable shoes instead, crimped and soldered. That will be a interim solution until the new body side engine wiring harness goes into the car together with the 6L engine. I would highly recommend to check this area and ensure that the contact surfaces are clean and the terminals are properly tightened. Along with this I also replaced the rear distributor caps [insulators] due to a sporadic idle misfire once the engine was hot.
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    I just completed the same repair. Mine looked similar. The corrosion was so bad the nut could no longer be removed.

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    Just for completeness of my owners thread, stated the installation in a separate thread already.
    Have installed the air guide panels situated on the inner sides of the head lights. They have not been there in my car and I m not really sure if these cars came with these installed. Found them while browsing the EPC and found them valid for the 036. So ordered them along the required clips and installed them.
    Parts: 1x A1246281907, 1x A1246282007, 6x 2019900192

    If the panels are not in place, air will flow from in front of the radiator package to the engine air intake housings. The plates will block this path mostly. Theoretically more air flows (maybe with a better flow) to the radiators. In my case combustion air is entering anyways through the lower head light panels air intakes.
    Further found also two rubber seals which are sitting on the lower front edge of the air intake housings. This is the edge which sits tucked under the front bumper. Have to install these too.
    My aim is to get the air flowing around and through the front end as it was designed with the target to reduce the lift effect on the bonnet front outer edges on high speeds.
    All seals around the head lights and on the bonnet are in place and new.
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    Nice tip, I have not seen them (or at least noticed them) on the 124036. But always thought it looks like something should be there

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    Another project currently is a further tweak of the 2.5-16 M102990 engine which I reconditioned about 2 1/2 years ago. As in one of the earlier posts mentioned I ordered a set of special pistons to raise compression from 9.7:1 to 10.5:1 in addition I requested to make them lighter than stock but still being durable and providing proper guidance in the cylinders with similar to stock length skirts. Further ordered a set of custom forged rods, capable of higher rpm. The car will get a full set of Evo2 controllers (EZL, CIS-E cu and FPR) and will then rev up to 7700 rpm. Saved in total almost 1kg of rotational mass in the crank assembly. Pistons are repair size 1 diameter (96mm). Also retrofitted oil jets for piston cooling.
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    Also getting a supercharger upgrade from a v1 s-trim to a v7-ysi on the w123 done including a relocation of the formerly prominent under the front bumper located oil and low temperature circuit coolers. Those will be installed behind a amg front spoiler.
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    Completed the heat exchanger relocation on the W123. The piping for the low temperature circuit heat exchanger and igger trans cooler is still to be done but that's not a big deal as well as the relocation of the right side horn.
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    Got some more progress on the 123 AMG front spoiler done. Air ducts becoming fully functional.
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    that is an awesome update.Thank you for nice pics.Looks fantastic
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