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    Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Dear all

    I have acquired a set of AMG OZ 17" alloys and would like to know the correct tyre sizes.

    The alloys are 8.5J front and 10J rear. Currently, it has 225 and 255 tyres fitted front and rear respectively. The tyres do look thin and slightly stretched on the rear. I am going to put the alloys in for a full rebuild soon and will also be running on H&R springs from the 400E (as my SLS has been deleted).

    Can anyone advise the right tyre sizes (or the largest I can go front and rear) for these alloys? I'd like to hear from current owners. I am not into stance or skinny tyres, prefer proper thick tyres!

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    Quote Originally Posted by e500.org View Post
    Dear all

    I have acquired a set of AMG OZ 17" alloys and would like to know the correct tyre sizes.

    The alloys are 8.5J front and 10J rear. Currently, it has 225 and 255 tyres fitted front and rear respectively. The tyres do look thin and slightly stretched on the rear. I am going to put the alloys in for a full rebuild soon and will also be running on H&R springs from the 400E (as my SLS has been deleted).

    Can anyone advise the right tyre sizes (or the largest I can go front and rear) for these alloys? I'd like to hear from current owners. I am not into stance or skinny tyres, prefer proper thick tyres!

    Cheers

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    Hi Bill,

    245/45 and 275/40 should give a good ride and proper appearance. Alter with different sizes on this link if you like:

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    http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...=10&offset2=17
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by 500AMM View Post
    245/45 and 275/40 should give a good ride and proper appearance.
    Those are the correct sizes - don't use anything narrower.


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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Those are the correct sizes - don't use anything narrower.

    hmm....correct sizes for those rims..FROM an SL..is 235/45 17...and 265/40 17...? how come they should be wider if fitted on a 036?

    just curious..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    hmm....correct sizes for those rims..FROM an SL..is 235/45 17...and 265/40 17...? how come they should be wider if fitted on a 036?

    just curious..
    I had those sizes on my Aero II/OZ when I got them, but the tire stretch and appearance was a bit weird for those type of wheels in my opinion. The handling was OK for Norwegian roads though.
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    My 036 with 8.5 (245/45/17) and 10.0 (275/40/17).
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron500E View Post
    My 036 with 8.5 (245/45/17) and 10.0 (275/40/17).
    The car handled like Bill Cosby on a first date.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    my "problem" with these tire sizes..is that i think there seems to be TOOO much rubber...to tall profile
    Would there be an alternative size that would make the profil "look abit tiny"er" But im not after Tirestretch from hell.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    245/45/17 and 275/40/17 provide the correct, 25.7-inch diameter that matches the stock 225-55-16 tire size on the 500E.

    235/265 is a half-inch smaller diameter, and more stretched. Also, there are extremely few tires available today in the 265/40/17 size. Tire Rack is showing only two. In the 275 size there are 27 tires available.

    Pic attached of 245/45/17 and 275/40/17 on 8.5 / 10.0 wheels.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    so i guess 235 45 ...265 40 would be a better route to go if you are looking for abit less sidewall height..?
    ive never been..and im not very into all the tire sizes,i really have to dig into this abit more

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    what is MRF tires?
    Still in hunt for opinions on the "correct" size..if looking for LESS sidewall rubber...

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    Still in hunt for opinions on the "correct" size..if looking for LESS sidewall rubber...
    Less sidewall = 18" or 19" wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lowman View Post
    what is MRF tires?
    Actually, it's a tire company: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRF_(company)
    In this context, I'd consider the MRF suggestion to be spam...
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Less sidewall = 18" or 19" wheels.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    I run 235/45ZR17 and 275/40ZR17 on my R107. No issues.
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Bringing this back from the dead, but I picked up a set of Nitto NT555 G2 245/45R17 front and 275/40R17 rear for my 17x8.5 ET 18 and 17x10 ET 17 AMG OZ and they rub in the rear on my 500E. Several folks commented this size would work but nobody seems to know which brand and style of tire works. I can say the Nitto NT555 G2 in the 275/40R17 will NOT work in the rear (front 245's are perfect) even at stock height. Any suggestions?

    Bridgestone released the S007A in the matching 235/45R17 and 265/40R17 sizes that AMG recommended back in the day.

    Should I order these to replace the damn-near-new Nittos that didn't work?

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by EPTXCarlover View Post
    Bringing this back from the dead, but I picked up a set of Nitto NT555 G2 245/45R17 front and 275/40R17 rear for my 17x8.5 ET 18 and 17x10 ET 17 AMG OZ and they rub in the rear on my 500E. ... Any suggestions?
    Are you POSITIVE that your rear wheels are actually ET17? That combo should clear, unless the Nittos have really odd-shaped sidewalls. Is there any chance someone swapped barrels and it's an ET lower than 17?

    I have 285 tires on a 10.0 ET25 (IIRC) with no problems, your setup mathematically is only 5mm wider. I have Conti DW tires which do have a fairly rounded sidewall/shoulder.

    Can you post a photo of the interference on the rear, tire vs fender? Where exactly is it rubbing?


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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    Are you POSITIVE that your rear wheels are actually ET17? That combo should clear, unless the Nittos have really odd-shaped sidewalls. Is there any chance someone swapped barrels and it's an ET lower than 17?

    I have 285 tires on a 10.0 ET25 (IIRC) with no problems, your setup mathematically is only 5mm wider. I have Conti DW tires which do have a fairly rounded sidewall/shoulder.

    Can you post a photo of the interference on the rear, tire vs fender? Where exactly is it rubbing?


    I bought the wheels from a forum member so its possible but unlikely the barrels were swapped. The fitment has them sticking out slightly but I've learned that these small mm increments can make or break fitment.

    The car is in Georgia with jhodg5ck getting some stuff done so a pic is gonna be tough anytime soon as it's 1400 miles away right now. The plan was to have the alternative 235/45R17 and 265/40R17 tires sent directly to him. While the existing tires "should" fit, the sidewall profile is pretty square vs tapered on others.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Your car is with the “Bitter Nitpicking Mechanic”?

    IMOP, You couldn’t ask for a better guy to check out your rub issue.
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    I'm at a loss to explain the rubbing. I think we'll need forum members with direct experience in aggressive wheel/tire fitments to chime in. Captruff? What sayeth thou? Arnt?

    On the bright side, Jono may have a loose 17x10 ET17 wheel floating around to verify the barrels are original and the offset is still ET17, not any lower.

    I'm not sure what to do besides try a different brand tire that is known to have a rounder profile, and/or downsize to narrower tires. But I'd hate to throw money at it and still not solve the problem.

    PS: Any chance rolling the fender lips would take care of it?


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    It’s just a quick measurement, and then you now how wide the rim and barrels are.. Even with tire on!! Just look where the correct point on the outside is. Oz does Barrels only in half Inch Steps for 17s!

    Good Tire Size is: 235/45 and 265/40

    3“ outside barrel and 7“ inside barrels are correct for 10x17 et17



    Correct measured like in the picture here: 9.0" width around 1“more, if you measure total width!

    Center High, from mounting flange to top of center: ~55mm (2.16“)
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    I'm at a loss to explain the rubbing. I think we'll need forum members with direct experience in aggressive wheel/tire fitments to chime in. Captruff? What sayeth thou? Arnt?

    On the bright side, Jono may have a loose 17x10 ET17 wheel floating around to verify the barrels are original and the offset is still ET17, not any lower.

    I'm not sure what to do besides try a different brand tire that is known to have a rounder profile, and/or downsize to narrower tires. But I'd hate to throw money at it and still not solve the problem.

    PS: Any chance rolling the fender lips would take care of it?
    Lips were rolled by PO. However, Jono agreed the tires definitely run wide as the sidewalls puff out a lot more compared to other tires. The O.Z. fitment is already aggressive so my question for folks is which brand and style tires worked on your cars?

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Please check to make sure the wheel was put together correctly! The center section of the OZ 3 piece wheels mounts from the bottom of the two barrel halves - it is not sandwiched between the two barrel halves. I sold a concours set of these a few years ago and the guy I sold them to had a fit trying to figure out why the rears rubbed on his C126. That was the answer.

    It doesn't change the overall width of the wheel if put together wrong, but will mess up the offset and shift the tire closer to the fender lip.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    Quote Originally Posted by AMG5PT4 View Post
    Please check to make sure the wheel was put together correctly! The center section of the OZ 3 piece wheels mounts from the bottom of the two barrel halves - it is not sandwiched between the two barrel halves. I sold a concours set of these a few years ago and the guy I sold them to had a fit trying to figure out why the rears rubbed on his C126. That was the answer.

    It doesn't change the overall width of the wheel if put together wrong, but will mess up the offset and shift the tire closer to the fender lip.
    Thank you for the advice! Looks like they're done right but I'll ask him to check. However, this would effectively make the wheel wider, correct?
    Ended up ordering a set of Firestone Indy 500 (rebranded Bridgestone) which is same size but different sidewall profile.
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    FYI - this thread give some thoughts around fitment issues;
    https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8282
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    Quote Originally Posted by EPTXCarlover View Post
    Thank you for the advice! Looks like they're done right but I'll ask him to check. However, this would effectively make the wheel wider, correct?
    Ended up ordering a set of Firestone Indy 500 (rebranded Bridgestone) which is same size but different sidewall profile.
    The outer edge of the center is only about 1/4" thick, so the end result of putting them together wrong (sandwiched) would add about 1/4" to the wheel width but also this changes the offset another 1/4" on the fender lip side. 10" is a wide wheel to make fit in W126/W124 chassis. Adding width and shifting the offset is no bueno.

    It is not easy to tell if the wheel is put together wrong! Hard to tell from looking at the face of the wheel - have to look from the rear to see if the inner barrel or the center is touching the rim bolt nuts.

    Below pics are the wheels I sold. Note that only one of the fronts was assembled when I shipped the wheels. That front is also shown from the rear and you can see that the rim bolt nuts are touching the center. The pic of the un-assembled rear has the center sandwiched between the barrels so the center wouldn't fall to the ground for the pic and for shipping! When he got the wheels, he assembled them with the rears sandwiched.

    Look at the first pic - you can't tell that 3 of them are incorrect from looking at the face of the wheels. I bet your wheels are put together wrong. My ex had these same wheels on her SL320 and ran 275's on the rear with no rub.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    If you „Sandwich“ the AMG Center, yes the Rim is getting wider, but on the other side, the outer lip is moving more inside, because of the missing thickness of the inside Barrel!
    About 5-6mm is the outside Barrel more inside now.. ET is moving up! Not down! So there can be no rubbing on the fender....
    and the Inside barrell will have no centering on the Center Self, only the screws will do it! Bullshit...
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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    You are correct. Sandwiching the wheel face will result in a wider wheel however the added width will all be on the backside.

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    Re: Correct tyres for AMG OZ

    The face is as normal and the rubbing is on the fender. As the guys mentioned, the clearance issue would be on the inside and the inside is not the issue, its the Nitto tires.

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